Can someone please explain the Ken Penders thing to me? I know nothing about it.
Can someone please explain the Ken Penders thing to me? I know nothing about it
Landon Murphy
Parker Ward
I didn't follow it either but basically when Ken left Archie, he tried to sue for the rights to the characters he created under their banner.
The whole thing stretched out like a bitch and, although I think he ultimately lost, to avoid further kerfuffle Archie and Sega rebooted the entire Sonic comic universe so they could drop all the original characters that didn't come from Sega or the SatAM cartoon. A lot of people got pissed and it black-balled Penders in the Sonic fan community.
Cameron Ward
>Star Trek nerd gets gig working on kid franchise
>Uses it as way to tell the story he always wanted to
>Said story is trash
>Eventually leaves company once he's forced to start playing ball with the brand
>Gets notified a game used some of his ideas
>File for copyright on characters he made up for book
>Sue game companies
>Get sued by comics company
>Case gets dropped because he had a non-0% chance of winning and the precedent would ruin the comics industry
>Acts smug on Twitter and baits stupid autists for attention
That's it.
Nathan Harris
Penders actually won the case because Archie at that point in time kept horrible order of their records, and when their head office burned down in a fire, they lost the documents necessary to beat Penders. So Penders took Lara-Su, Julie-Su and all his other echidna OCs, gave them a new race name, and started teasing "The Lara-Su Chronicles" of which we have yet to see the release almost 10 years later.
Jaxson Hall
>Penders actually won the case
His case against Sega/EA was dismissed.
Archie's lawsuit against him was settled out of court.
Cameron Clark
Sally can still be used, that's all that matters.
Jacob Scott
A settlement in other words is a company taking the L. Ok Penders didn't win the actual case, fine. But he still "won" in the end, even if he's done nothing with his victory since then.
Easton Walker
Even the victory wasn't what he wanted.
What he REALLY wanted to do is get the rights to his characters and Archie having to ask him as consultant to use them.
He constantly mentioned that he would gladly "Lend them their characters" if they stuck by some of his rules: Like making his shitty-ass x Years Later story the One True Canon and retcon everything the other writers had done while he was gone. He also wanted toralyies out of every reprint and time his characters were used, past present and future.
He was so out of touch with the franchise that he assumed his characters were essential. He didn't want to return as an artist/writer, he justw anted to be The Ideas Guy and get paid for doing absolutely nothing so of course Archie was like fuck that shit and rebooted the whole world.
At this point, The Lara-Su Chronicles is just a front for him to appear that he won when he really lost. That's why he hasn't continued working on it. He keeps going back and forth by saying this is a continuation of his Sonic run but also isn't, so it's clear that he doesn't have any fucking idea of what he's doing.
Lucas Bailey
No, settling out of court isn't a win. It's getting appeased so the other party can avoid the possibility of losing. This is extremely important when talking about law.
Blake Bell
Ys
William Peterson
>huge debacle with Archie and Sega over if a contracted worker can claim copyright on OC character designs made in your franchise
>The next Paper Mario (and every one since) to come out after that debacle has a mandate that there can be no OC character designs made in the franchise anymore.
Coincidences are fun
Joseph Moore
Is Oragami King good? It looked like a return to TTYD but I haven't really looked into it.
Nolan Gonzalez
That's just Tanabe being retarded.
Dominic Allen
But she won't be. Ever again.
Connor Stewart
HOW SHIT A WRITER KEN PENDERS WAS: EPISODE 41
>While writing all the Echidna recolor characters, you might remember the story of the first Guardian, which came out in the late 90's
>For those who don't know, Knuckles is the last in a long line of Guardians of the Floating Island
>The first Guardian was a scientist named Edmund, who constantly sought to curtail but also redeem his evil brother
>He was killed trying to stop his nefarious brother Dimitri, but Dimitri succumbs to his hubris
>To most readers this is just a bit trivia, just a couple of names picked out of a hat
Did you know that the daytime soap opera All My Children was running at the same time as this storyline? Shortly before the first guardian storyline was written, All My Children ran a storyline about two brothers, one good and one nefarious. GUESS WHAT THE GOOD BROTHER'S NAME WAS? GUESS WHAT THE NEFARIOUS BROTHER'S NAME WAS?
>Ken Penders: Man, writing is hard.... wait, this soap opera is pretty intense! I bet I could just steal this storyline, add some echidna stuff, and little kids won't even notice that I didn't even change the names!
Mason Cook
>He pilfered a name from a popular pop culture thing.
OH NO!
Seriously, this is such a weak ass copypasta. At least point at some of the bad shit he wrote.
Blake Phillips
You can read a bunch of posts on Zig Forums playing telephone and half-remembering shit, or you can go read what's generally considered the most thorough and well-researched account of the whole mess.
theamazingsallyhogan.tumblr.com
Ryder Wilson
Nope, it’s just sticker star 3.
Jaxson Gray
Like how everyone has to be related to knuckles somehow so the end result is the family tree closes back in on itself
Ryan Torres
So what? That's probably one of the LEAST offensive things he ever did, compared to how the whole Echidna storyline is a mash-up of Kryptonians and a Star Trek script he penned where the Native Americans survived and adapted their ways to the future.
Liam Turner
>Mari-Su
*snicker*
Lucas Clark
Exactly. That's a far better example.
Color Splash > Origami King
Luke Smith
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Didn't he try to replace Robotnik with the villain from his X-Men ripoff that got cancelled due to low sales after the first issue?
Blake Reed
No. That was always his intended plan.
Bear in mind that the "Robo-Robotnik" that ultimately became the redesigned Dr. Eggman was originally Penders making a cooler, more evil villain for Sonic due to how the actual Robotnik at the time was a completely-incompetent oaf. He wanted Robonik to not just be evil, but to be the literal Mobian Anti-Christ that his "chosen one" Knuckles was prophesied to destroy once and for all.
Ayden Howard
Imagine Ken Penders's Zavok
Ryan Hernandez
We had his thread for the 92628692612 times
Carter Moore
Ken doesn't seem to like anything from the games, so I doubt he'd write Zavok as more than the bare minimum (which, granted, is Zavok, but still).
Jackson Russell
It would be about the same as his Shadow.
Christian Miller
That is to say, used once in a forgettable "here's the first stage, now buy the game" filler story to satisfy Sega's demand, then forgotten about.
Brayden Rogers
No, I mean he would be written like how Ken wrote Shadow.
Ian Turner
That was moreso Super Paper Mario's fault for choosing an aesthetic Miyamoto disagreed with, so he reeled in tighter.