Where do you draw the line between homage and plagiarism?
Where do you draw the line between homage and plagiarism?
Robert Lewis
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Jacob Nguyen
When someone else is doing it to someone else it's a homage.
if theyre stealing from me it's plagiarism
simple as
Aaron Stewart
something i like = homage
what i dont like = plagiarism
Jackson Miller
>taking a post from another thread and making an entire new thread
mckill yourself
Nolan Perry
>homage
An allusion to part of another work.
>plagiarism
An attempt to present some other work as your own.
The Magnificent Seven was an homage.
Turkish Star Wars is plagiarism.
Adam Jackson
Anime shows copy each other all the time, who gives a fuck. Whatever show made headlines in one year's seasonal anime, is coppied for multiple shows next year.
Henry Jones
BUT [SHOW {BOARD} HATES] DID IT AND I HATE SHOW SO THAT MAKES IT THE WORSTEST
Josiah Morales
Nathaniel Nelson
If the reference adds something new to the work it's paying homage to. If Simpsons takes an Indiana Jones scene but changes elements so it's much more comedic with Homer being the boulder tumbling after Bart, then it's a good reference because the original scene is not comedic, so you're getting something new from the Simpsons version.
If Boondocks copies a fight scene from an anime, but they change it so it's a bunch of elderly black people fighting martial arts shit at a funeral, it's adding something new which is comedy.
If Star Vs or Steven Universe copy a sad scene and the scene they're doing is also sad, it's plagiarism because they aren't offering anything new. If they're stealing a fight scene but they're presenting it as just a flat-out fight scene, it's plagiarism because nothing new is being presented from the original other than worse animation.
Jack Garcia
So is this thread a homage or plagiarism?
Jason Smith
Austin Long
When tracing is involved
Jaxon Bell
If you're just doing it as an obvious reference for a funny moment it's OK even if it's almost exactly the same. Remaking scenes that are supposed to be serious and important is bullshit though and SU seems to have done it multiple times. Most people watching it won't know what it's 'homaging' and will just praise the show's director for being brilliant. Would still be OK if the creator says they actually copied the scene and I'm not sure if the dyke has ever publicly done it.
Jack Roberts
> lose focus for a moment
> don't even realise the title is changing on the tracers on the left
i really wonder how much you can get away with before a lawyer starts to slide their dick into your company office with a "you're sued" notice taped to it.
Camden Miller
If I had my own show, I wouldn’t allow any references in it to avoid accusations of plagiarism. I would be 100% original.
Nolan Evans
There are some exceptions but I think the closer it is to the original the more likely it's plagiarism. To me an homage hints at, references, reminds you of some other work. Plagiarism I think copies another work.
And those are just assumptions without knowing the creators intent. Although there are probably creators that intended an homage and were penalized in some way for plagiarism. Maybe it really just depends on what the original creator thinks.
Brayden Clark
When it's directly lifting assets
Nathaniel Jenkins
Anime homages other anime in this way all the time
Carson Davis
Licensing
Ian Jones
>most people watching it won't know
The fuck? The sources were iconic as fuck. Zoomers aren't the standard
Robert Flores
>traced, beat for beat
>reference
that's the difference, not rocket science.
Gavin Bell
its only okay if hundreds of people copy the same exact thing, for some reason
Tyler Peterson
Motions and screen composition are functional designs. Camera technique are techniques, you'd learn in class where, why, and how to use them.
It's not like every scene that performs a Zolly is "plagiarizing" Alfred Hitchcock.
Also "copying" isn't "plagiarizing"; what are they teach you in school?
Jose Powell
>Exit stage left
Oh. How. Fucking. Original.
Sebastian Morris
>Zoomers aren't the standard
They literally are though. They are the largest demographic. People in their 30s that can recognize shit like Utena in SU are maybe 0.5% of the viewers.
Alexander Cook
god steven universe is such an ugly show
Brody Richardson
>Also "copying" isn't "plagiarizing"; what are they teach you in school?
This is why arts dont get as much respect as stem sweaty
Joshua Jenkins
Kayden Ramirez
Context.
Andrew James
>implying STEM is free of bullshit politics and plagiarism
wew
Daniel Gray
When someone is a hack, so Sugar is clearly on the plagiarism side.
Connor Nelson
>zoomers existing makes everything before 2010 erased from internet and history
That's no excuse, to be honest.
Jace Turner
I find that so odd. The generation that grew up with an unheard of amount of access to information and media from around the world. Seems to commonly be the least informed.
Aaron Howard
This is the most concise answer I’ve seen so far.
Jaxson Richardson
What are you going to do with respect?
Angel Howard
The real question is when do you step in and stop your shitty storyboard artists writing homage scenes because they lack the talent to create their own unique experiences for these characters to act out and become their own iconic scenes for the series.
Jayden Cook
Now that I think about it; there was a sene in Sailor Moon when Sailor Uranus finds Neptune floating in the air, and in Ocarina of Time Zelda is bound in the air while the piano was playing. I wonder what homage is that supposed to be from
Dominic Wilson
Homages, references, and plagiarism are all marks of a talentless individual.
Kayden Garcia
doesn't Stevey omniverse usual do scenes that are animated just like anime scenes though, many, many times?
Oliver Taylor
That's not what plagiarism means, stupid.
They're not copying someone else's English homework and claiming it as their own for a grade.