Deleted scenes for Frozen 2 and the upcoming book both suggest there was a strong anti-Northuldra sentiment in Arendelle, to the point where it's implied it could have costed Iduna her life if they found out her true identity.
Is this a good justification for Iduna's actions?
Should they have kept this aspect of Arendellian society in the film?
Did it serve any purpose at all for the plot?
Frozen 2's deleted scene: Secret room: youtu.be/_AxYnIdROiQ >Norhuldran language is forbidden.
Frozen 2 Dangerous Secrets' summary: archive.is/yZqVI >Ever since the day the forest fell, Arendellians have despised and distrusted Northuldra with a vengeance. >Fortunately for her, Agnarr doesn’t know that Iduna is the Northuldra girl he saw seemingly flying on a gust of wind all those years ago, the day of the celebration turned disaster. The day Agnarr lost his father, the king. The day Agnarr himself almost died.
It would have made her character more interesting and sort of justify her actions, but I don't see it serving a major purpose in the movie.
Jace Rogers
Even the soldiers forget their hate for the Norhuldra rather quickly once the main characters show up It doesn't seem like it would have been a major plot point It does help Iduna's case a little but she's already dead
Connor Green
All you need to know... is that Iduna was canonically fucked- by Agnar
William Morgan
I like it because it gives Arendelle a darker side but I guess they didn't want to have that in the film.
Julian Hall
>Is this a good justification for Iduna's actions? I'm ok with her hiding her identity from Agnarr up till the point when her daughters began to suffer because of it, then she becomes a shitty person
Noah Cooper
pretty much this I like it but it doesn't do much for the plot
It becomes more of a problem for the novel rather than the movie because, since it wasn't told in the movie, it feels like something that comes out of nowhere.
Even if it's not explicitly said in the movie, it is something that you gotta imply. To the Arendellians, the Northuldra are the tribe that killed King Runeard.
Jayden Thomas
Yes, it's just something that we lost in part for this being a Disney movie and they not wanting to spend the time developing the idea in the movie.
Cooper Hill
Unless there's a strong republican presence in Arendelle, there was no way her life would have been in danger. She wasn't just living there, she was the friggin' Queen!
Luis Long
right and once she became queen she was most likely afraid of what Agnarr would do or how the people would react to their king being married to their mortal enemy
This. I'm totally fine with her doing what she did until that point. Though I'll admit that does make her a more interesting character to me.
This one is very nice. That artist has been pretty active lately.
Alexander Gomez
As other user said, it's something that you have to imply, given what happened between both groups.
Camden Reyes
I believe one of the earlier versions gave Arendelle this darker vibe, which is why the destruction of the castle was a good pay-off.
Eli Cook
yes, and once that was changed destroying the castle stopped having much of a significance I think I would have still preferred that earlier draft, though. Everything in the deleted scenes gives hints of a more interesting movie
David Ross
I'm unironically hyped for that novel just to read how they ruin her character even more
Charles Green
They're gonna give her like 20 chances to come clean, and she'll make things worse and worse everytime It's gonna be great
Cameron Turner
Basically every dialogue between her and Elsa is gonna be rage-inducing.
lol That's a good point I can get not telling Agnarr, but her daughter was cursed with magic powers and felt like a freak, the least Iduna could do was telling Elsa that it was ok, that she came from a place where people were used to dealing with magic so, you know, she wouldn't feel so alone and had her mother as an ally
Luis Brooks
How do you know she didn't? How do you know she didn't
Joshua Brooks
She was protecting Elsa from the knowledge that she and Anna were half filthy, subhuman Nothuldrans in a society that would kill them for it
Colton Rodriguez
Why do people not support the attempted Arendellen genocide of the Nothuldrans? It is not very different from the American extermination of the Indians, the Russian extermination of the Siberian indigenous people, the Australian extermination of the Aboriginal, the Swedish/Finnish extermination of the Saami, and the ongoing Chinese extermination of the Uyghurs.
Tribal people are the enemies of settled civilized societies and should in every case, be exterminated. You are all members of the latter, and are complicit in this.
James Reed
She would have been a queen who had lied for decades about her true heritage.
As far as any good Arendellian knows, she lied to seduce her way on the throne, to either kill Agnarr, or fill his head with Northuldra lies. Honestly, she probably used witchcraft. We all know those filthy Northuldra sluts lay with the devil in order to call those spirits. And if they could lie for this long to get their puppet queen on throne, who knows what they’ll do next? To save our country and our children, we must kill the false queen Iduna!
She loved Agnarr too much to bring disgrace on the royal family. Imagine what would happen if the truth came out. It would be a huge scandal and affect the monarchy's reputation among the people. Agnarr would be derided among the people as a dumb cuck who married a Nothuldran whore, while Iduna would be carted off to prison or exile, never to see her kids again.
