Why didnt Marvel & DC listen to fans? Why did they put politics first and not customers?

>not realizing those people are not their customers.
I want comic gate chuds and Zig Forums to leave

No, they honestly and unironically believe in SJW bullshit, despite knowing full well that it doesn't sell.

since when mangakas listen to the fans? the only difference is that manga most of the time don't have so much editorial oversight compared to comics.

That makes no sense, companies are looking to make a profit.

>Being out of touch with their fans

When do you think they were ever in touch?

DC and Marvel don't make comics for people who like comics. They make them to promote the brand, for the movies and merchandise and identity politics is a useful tactic. Remember when Thor was replaced with a woman, the amount of media attention that generated. Constantly doing the sort of thing means people don't care as much but you will still have social media accounts making a big deal out of every race and gender swap, easy publicity.

The people who work for Marvel and DC ARE those retards from twitter.

>since when mangakas listen to the fans?
Since they established the system where you get your book cancelled if it doesn't rank well enough in popularity polls, meaning fans decide which series get to live and die.

Comics are just IP farms, their parent companies haven't given a shit about what they've done for the last decade, which is why there's zero quality control.

1960's-1980's.

personally id like there work weeks to be cut from 'one month a comic' to 'two, maybe three' per month or atleast give magnakas more people to work with. poor fuckers are being run raggid like an old mare at a donkey show.

Every person who unironically says "chud" belongs in a camp.

I stopped reading capeshit much because i just didn’t really buy into the new 52, not because of politics. just didn’t feel like the characters I used to like. I guess reboots can do that.

Sounds like a good system.

>Why didnt Marvel & DC listen to fans?
They do, and then you still spit in their face.
>Why did they put politics first and not customers?
This isn't true at all unless you're someone who thinks they're intentionally spiting you because oh my God there's a married gay couple kissing or a black man has a white girlfriend, in which case your opinion is trash and that is why nobody listen to you in the first place.

>Not to mention it's political TO NIPS.
Is this going to be good go to damage control for manga outselling American comics? Have you seen Japanese twitter reaction to Netflix politically pandering japan sinks 2020? They hatred it. They directly blame politics for the show sucking.

> or atleast give magnakas more people to work with
You have no idea how many assistants they employ, do you?

Yeah, it would probably help if the west tried to implement it.

Maintaining readership is not the same as listening to the demands of a vocal minority.

Literally got 2 back to back films, high in demand merchandise sales, now has more ovas out, New season coming soon, the most popular action show in the US.

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>since when mangakas listen to the fans?
Dragon ball super one big fan service for long time dragon ball fans. Especially GT and dragon ball fan service fans

I wonder what you mean by this in relation to my post.

Pretending every single time this happens as the only, single time it has ever happened means that you're a disingenuous tranny who should dilate with a chainsaw.

You know this happened in your time frame, right?

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Cope.

>Why didnt Marvel & DC listen to fans? Why did they put politics first and not customers?

Their method of data collection is inherently flawed.
I'm under the impression it is based on social media and how much something is talked about, vs actual customer retention and the relationship between customers and their purchases.
This is difficult to word because I'm not a market guy, but the market guys are in charge of the creative decisions and directions of these companies and they think current liberal political commentary is what is going to sell these comic books because it's what has people talking about them: good or bad, any publicity means they're being advertised and circulated around.

But the "Politics? I just want to grill!" consumer, and children/teenagers, are alienated by these themes because cooperative, commercial, "opinions" are always going to be contrived, safe, disingenuous, and much like how.. Uhhh... Those raps about not doing drugs. Kids don't look at these comic books about lesbians and trump is bad and go, "haha neato, yeeeaaaahhh". They see them as their generations version of, like, Captain Planet or the AfterSchool special that "talks at you" and "not to you".

So then they just go buy Manga or they buy European comics, because they're fun. They want to have fun.
Comic Books are supposed to be fun.

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Mangakas have plenty of assistants doing the tedious work, who later become mangakas themselves like an abusive circle.

>Not to mention it's political TO NIPS.

Not just Japanese, but Chinese and Koreans, as there was a giant controversy around the series naming a certain character that was seen as a reference to Unit 731. Which of course means nothing to idiot Americans because you don't get the historical context.

>that’s literally not my job retard

And what's wrong with that, exactly? Hal was in the wrong in that issue and got BTFO, leading to introspection and attempting to better himself.
It's a classic run for a reason.

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How is it less "political" and more "in touch with fans" than anything now, though?

It didn't use the phrase "What in menstruation are you doing here?"

>Comic books have more diversity
but do they have more dimes?

>meaning fans decide which series get to live and die.

You do realize the ranking system is explicitly what turns a lot of shounen series into shit because they try to pander to the lowest common denominator to keep the series going? Look at something like Medaka Box: Starts out as quirky high school comedy series about the student council with a hyper competent president doing crazy shit to help her fellow students by fulfilling their requests, and then it slowly gets turned into a fight manga with multilevel underground bases and power levels, death traps and every other fucking cliche you can think of.

>Normalfaggots
You're nobody special, user. The fact that DC and marvel can't connect with the average person is why comics are in such a sorry state sales wise

OP they listened. They listened to these kind of customers and fans

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Kishimoto, creator of the 4th highest grossing manga ever made, had his new series cancelled because it did poorly in the rankings.
This alone is enough to show the merits of the system.

I meant you can maintain popularity/readership without listening to fan feedback, just do an engaging story. A bunch of mangakas don't check of fan reactions, just their editor suggestions.

I’m surprised journalists are not going after my hero academia for sexualizing the girls.
Surprised

Yeah, this is really problematic

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>dimes
Shut up yo face Zig Forums

>Why did they put politics first and not customers?
They had some issue they could/would not fix : event fatigue, great drop after each n°1, over-reliance on star-talent
Editor tought fighting invisible dragons would guarantie their paycheck and artist/writter hired on the cheap already had bad politics.

Not having to make direct profit (because comic shop are the clients and not readers)
was a bad ingredient, it just got even worse when Marvel and DC got bid daddies to pay the bill.
Its Ultimatly not having to make profit for a while that converted comics into a political platform that vilify his customers.

That issue aged like milk. Hale Gordon saves billions and stopped genocides. Sounds like black supremacy that want to be the center of the universe.

You're confusing profitability with popularity. MHA movie made 5mil domestically and 27mil worldwide so a lot more people actually saw BoP. I'm not defending BoP but this is a weak example.

No, it cuts right to the heart of capeshit: superheroes are glorified emergency services that just put a bandaid on shit after something goes wrong, rather than do anything with their powers to solve actual issues in the world.