What was the point of this series again?

What was the point of this series again?

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to tell a horror story. have you never a horror movie?

I have never a horror story, no.

To stretch out a story for more than it should be. Seriously, some of it could've just been cut or reduced and it'd have the same effect, but better pacing.

To be edgy garbage, evidently.
>Here's Jean Grey as a child prostitute!
>Oops, she's dead now!

To show an opposite and arguably more practical perspective of Kurt Busieks “Marvels”

I have to say the art sort of reminds me of the scary stories to tell in the dark art.

My guess is Ellis thought Marvels was too heartfelt and schmaltzy so he decided to try and create an intentionally overly dark version of it.

to be opposite of the Marvels mini series

>opposite of the Marvels mini series
Well, he succeeded in making it the opposite of good.

wasn't it meant to be a response to a DC comic?

A semi-realistic interpretation of how certain groups or Marvel characters would be treated or created. The results are a mixed bag.

To remind you that the real world is not all sunshine and rainbows.

I always find it funny when people refer to Ruins as the opposite of Marvels but always assumes it's because Marvels is light and Ruins is dark. Marvels was not like a 100% upbeat book. The first issue has Phil Sheldon losing an eye during the Namor vs Torch battle. The second issue has Anti-Mutant hysteria in contrast to the celebrity glamour of the other heroes. The third issue ends with Phil getting frustrated with the civilians being ungrateful and still anti-Mutant. The fourth issue has Phil in frustration with people's view of the superheroes and then he loses faith when he sees Spider-Man is unable to save Gwen, and decides to retire.

If Ruins is the opposite of Marvels in anyway it's way more cartoonish than Marvels.

>The first issue has Phil Sheldon losing an eye during the Namor vs Torch battle.
Oh nooes he lost an eye! People get raped in poverty and die eating shit every day, but waaaah, a privileged snowflake lost an eye!
>The second issue has Anti-Mutant hysteria in contrast to the celebrity glamour of the other heroes.
Lame. Who gives a fuck?
>The third issue ends with Phil getting frustrated with the civilians being ungrateful and still anti-Mutant
But of course, it implies that there always is a better way, to be a good guy who's never angry at stuff and is just complacent with government fucking him in the ass.
>The fourth issue has Phil in frustration with people's view of the superheroes and then he loses faith when he sees Spider-Man is unable to save Gwen, and decides to retire.
Boo hoo some bitch got shanked 50 years ago and everyone had big sad. These people don't know what true suffering is like, when you actually wish you would die.
>If Ruins is the opposite of Marvels in anyway it's way more cartoonish than Marvels.
No, it's realistic and the shows the world for what it is, without any colorful men in pajamas to save the day.

tl;dr

tl;dr: Ellis shill desperate for relevency.

Ellis wanted to make Marvels, but edgy

I just assumed Ellis was bored one day, and Marvel were willing to say yes to anything.

>Hahaha look at how much of a sociopath I can pretend to be
>Aren't you impressed?
>Please be impressed...

He was writing it for an issue of What If, someone decided it needed to get the Marvels treatment with prestige format/acetate cover and painters doing the art, and stretched it for two issues.

Ha Ha Ha!
What a story user!
Anyway, how's your sex life?

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showcase how Ellis is edgier than Ennis

why did he rub blood all over his face?

Trying too hard buddy

>everything went wrong because Ben Grimm didn't fly the ship
guess the message is that the Fantastic Four are the foundation of the Marvel universe (which is true in real life) but to say it is in-universe gives the F4 this layer of mythical predestination nonsense that's the antithesis of western superheroes.

the whole thing is basically just a bad joke

That doesn't make sense, the Ruins world was already going wrong before that happened. Cap and Fury in Ruins got into cannibalism during World War II.

but that exact moment is what the story decides is the point of divergence for the Marvels & Ruins universes.

So he fucked up and forgot what he wrote?

wouldn't be the first time, like how there's a cult leader Donald Blake and a Thor on the Avengers