How do you write *good* female characters without them being male characters just genderswapped...

How do you write *good* female characters without them being male characters just genderswapped? What makes a character *male* vs making them *female*?

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Who they're attracted t-...
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How about this.
Think of a man, then take away reason and accountability.

>How do you write *good* female characters without them being male characters just genderswapped?
What the fuck does that even mean?

Hey I remember all this chicks' incest porn. I think she's a normalfag now but 13 year old me busted many a nut to her art.

Same as you write any character. Their culture and upbringing informs their philosophy. Their social and economic status informs their goals. Put together their goals and philosophy and you have a good idea of how they'll achieve their goals.

You come up with the story first, then flesh out characters based on their function in it.

There shouldn't be a huge difference between your female and male characters

Depending on the setting and what level of realism you're aiming for, there are times when acknowledging gender norms, whether it's by subverting them or following them, can make characters more compelling. This is the case for writing male and female characters. But most of the time, the gender of a character is really just incidental.
The most informative thing about characters are the things happen to them and the way they decide to respond, not what they are.

This is a concise way of putting it.

setting and story comes first.

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Boobs,give them gigants bobobongas and you have made a great female character

Just don't make them overly emotive because I swear to god there are just no female voice actors that can emote without grinding my ears in a cheese grater. Female VAs are just as much the problem as the writing for their characters but people really never mention this and it pisses me off. I don't know what it is, I hate when I'm enjoying a pretty good show with both headphones in, noise isolating ones, really getting immersed into it. Then some fucking woman is reading an already terrible line in an overly obnoxious way but only the writing gets called out, if that. Even good lines can be fucked by a bad actor, everyone realizes that, but they don't seem to in conversations about this specifically and it bothers the shit out of me.

Women please just voice act better.

This. Now that I think of it, that "critique" is absolute nonsense. Just write a fucking character. A person's gender, sexuality, etc, these things inform, not define. OP, you're fucking dumb.

Just write a good character and decide gender later.
Though i guess writers just kinda knownthe basic outline of a character from the beginning.

I think they've already thoroughly ruined female characters in American media enough to where now it's just impossible to like them for me. Even when they're not doing the primary things everyone agrees is cancer, it's just too far gone.

>Think of a man, then take away reason and accountability.
>implying that all men have these traits
>implying that Slavnigger, Germ, Bong and Amerimutt """men""" are anything but filth

they're WEAK as SHIT. They can't compete on the field of battle
while the men are blasting away with big ass-Laser Beams the women are like crying because one of the villains is legitimately scary
they don't have big Muscles because it's a waste of their skill points. instead, they walk around giving people coffee and carrying the wounded to the doctor. they laugh at bad jokes and it's fine, when men laugh at bad jokes they get slapped for being Weenies who are not as good as the others and are just plain bad at jokes

Off the battlefield they can handle children because they actually enjoy cleaning up messes that children leave everywhere like they're the snake from Snake and are trying to fill the room. they can assist in various tasks even when they haven't been shot through the spine and they pretty much have to sit around telling Batman that Killer Croc escaped, Scarecrow released fear gas in Arkham Asylum, and similar things

it's not that hard once you get into it

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Unless youre watching some fanservice anime, this is a (You) problem

>theres not a single female character in western media I like
This says more about you than western media

god you're such a fucking bitchboy

Of course this retarded namefag is a fan of homosuck

Whatever happened to the cute shy and softspoken wife characters? Do they just not exist anymore? Now they're all the same and the husband is the doormat or problem that gets laid into every episode.

Female characters are inherently shit.

Careful, Zig Forums is over 50% snarky autistic women, despite the fact they have 20 different deflection responses to ignore this when it's said.

This

>good written characters are indistinguishable by gender
good fucking golly now who could have seen this coming

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Okay get this you write a good character and then this is the tricky part you don't give them penis but give her a vagina

Have a feminine women. Make them a good character. Is that so hard?

>implying

In order for a male audience to like a girl, they need two primary factors: Consequences and Justifications. They need a well defined reason for why they do things, and need to suffer the consequences of their actions or their circumstance.

To appeal to girls however, girl characters need at least two of five characteristics:
-Social Struggle
-Victimization
-Object of Love
-Self Insert
-The Cool Girl

Social struggle is just any form of dissatisfaction with their current social position. This may take the place as being a nerd in school, being the least popular in a load of friends, or being the new girl at work. Women empathize with the struggle for social acceptance as the reward system of a girl's brain is related to gaining clout.

Victimization just relates to any form of wrong doing that can be sympathized with, getting cheated on, getting mutilated, getting a kid stolen. This in itself is a character trait for most women.

Object of love is usually a man or her child. This object doesn't need to be very fleshed out, as what's really important is how the girl feels towards the character, and what she feels for not "Having" it. Not having it can come in the form of anything from not understanding her child, to having her friend held hostage somewhere.

Self Insert is entirely dependent on how relatable a character is so audience is key here. The goal here is getting a girl to say "Just like me" so teens will want to see teenage girls with non-strict character traits that they can easily project themselves into, and grown women will want either some kind of young adult in a similar fashion or a mom that works a job and raises kids at the same time.

The Cool Girl is the easy way out a lot of the time. A character who has ascended beyond the need for clout and can finally kick ass as a liberated woman. Can be done good if it's an initial character trail, but is usually shit if it becomes a character trait after losing one of the prior four traits.

There are just more great male characters for some reason. While female characters flock into mediocrity. Maybe it's because men have been filling up the majority of the cast. Maybe it's literature's defining women to a niche in the narrative. Maybe it's my own sexism.

But the thing is; male characters are just better for the most part.

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>How do you write *good* female characters without them being male characters just genderswapped? What makes a character *male* vs making them *female*?

Just tr to write a character, if it's difficult and you really want to write a character from a women's perspective ask women, really try to get help from them and interview them and ask for help on writting.