"He only wanted you to be happy. Look what you've done to us, daddy. Pietro was right. You ruined us before we even had a chance. Why would you treat your own children this way? Why? Because you actually think you're better than everyone else. The arrogance of you. You think because we're mutants we're better than them. That we deserve to rule. That's what you wanted and I gave it to you. But look what it becomes. Even when you get what you want, you're still this horrible man. We're not the next step. We're not gods. We're freaks! Look at us, daddy! We're freaks! Mutants! You chose this over us and you ruined us! Daddy... No more mutants."
For the Decimation. Or rather. Will the rest of the mutants realize she was right and to stop demonizing her?
Tyler Young
>Wanda did YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKIN’ DESERVE before Arthur Dent
Ethan Morgan
I love Wanda, and I'm enjoying HiXMen but in Empyre: XMen 4 he basically spelled out that she'll never be able to emotionally recover and that she'll probably be a victim of reprisals soon. Fffffffffffff
John Powell
Which is complete bullshit when you think that it really is Magnetos fault.
He was the prixk that kept going on about mutant supremacy. He never truly bothered to act like a proper father to his own kids. Quicksilver and Scarlet gave him exactly what he always wanted and then goes on a rampage and almost kills his own son.
She suffered a psychotic break and only the avengers tried to help her. Her own kind wanted to put her down like a dog because they were afraid the whole situation would be a PR disaster for mutant relations first and foremost. Mutants couldn't have given two shots about the actual harm she caused. They only cared that it was one of their own.
I want the end of this plotline for it to be revealed she and Pietro were .mutants all along and all of Krakoa sinks into the sea.
Fuck the Xmen.
Brandon Long
Wanda's entire life has pretty much been one long string of getting kicked in the face. But really, why the fuck would the mutants even want to antagonize her? They're well aware that mass, permanent depowering of mutants is within her wheelhouse if she's pushed far enough. She doesn't even need to mass depower this go around. If she hit Krakoa the whole house of cards would fall immediately.
Blake Powell
Wanda's hot takes will never be sadly acknowledged.
While I disagree with several points of Remender's reasoning, he was spot on about the whole mutant solidarity and mutant culture being bullshit. If anything he didn't go far enough by pointing out most mutants don't get cool superpowers, they get functionally useless mutations or outright deformities.
Angel Edwards
Red Skull did nothing wrong!
Aaron Kelly
Mutants might want to take revenge against for for the decimation incident. Especially since they now a decent foothold in the world now with krakoa. But the best thing they could do is leave her alone. If they don't bother her she wont bother them . I feel bad for her though. She did some horrible shit, but that shit wasn't on purpose. But.... she still gonna have to carry that weight.
Evan Allen
Harvey Dent?
Blake Cruz
The problem with Decimation is that they never switched off Morrison's take of the majority of mutants not getting cool superpowers and a large chunk of them getting detrimental, or even harmful, mutations. Very few actually depowered mutants should want to take a crack at Wanda - and even then Children's Crusade has it so that Wanda can repower a mutant if they want her too - and pretty much all of the current mutants were never Decimated in the first place. All but roughly 200 people on Krakoa should be "who cares about the Scarlet Witch" and a couple million ex-mutants should be "God bless Wanda Maximoff."
Jack Peterson
Just blame Doom for fuck's sake. Blame Chthon, blame Immortus, blame the many other people who have mind-controlled Wanda (or others).
Every other hero does terrible things and they get it retconned so it wasn't them, or writers just forget about it. Only Wanda gets one shitty story hung around her forever.
Jim Zub said recently that he's pitched multiple Wanda-centric ideas and none of them got picked up (the Wanda/Doctor Voodoo series he pitched got turned into a Quicksilver mini). This makes it seem likely that they're saving her for Hickman's revenge, especially after last week's "Wanda is terrible" story he wrote.
Leaving Vision and Wanda out of Empyre, an event largely spun off from Young Avengers and the Celestial Madonna saga (two stories with big Wanda/Vision connections) really sums up how Marvel simply will not use them in anything important... until the inevitable "Pretender" story by Hickman, who clearly has no interest in either of them.
Isaac Wilson
>Jim Zub said recently that he's pitched multiple Wanda-centric ideas and none of them got picked up (the Wanda/Doctor Voodoo series he pitched got turned into a Quicksilver mini). Honestly Zub not getting to push his crackship more was for the best. The only writer at Marvel who cares about her is someone who needs to be kept away from her just as much as X-Men writers need to be kept away from her.
Logan Roberts
Still one of the saddest moments in Marvel history. Wanda explaining why Magneto is the absolute worst.
Lincoln Rodriguez
>most mutants don't get cool superpowers, they get functionally useless mutations or outright deformities. You would think the X-men would emphasize the fact to the public in order to gain sympathy but they're too married to their ubermensch bullshit.
Matthew Reyes
Even if they aren't in an ongoing book and are just in limbo because nobody at Marvel likes them, I just want them to be together again, and for Marvel, and the MCU to stop hurting them. I don't think this is asking for much, but they just won't do it.
Josiah Wilson
It could be worse. There could be a writer that gets them back together, then the next immediately tears them apart again.
>But really, why the fuck would the mutants even want to antagonize her? We need more detail about what's happening with Exodus indoctrinating and radicalizing those children, like does everyone else know he's doing this, and they're all fine with it? Actually confronting her is probably the last thing he wants to do, his disciples meeting her would destroy his narrative of her being the Devil in his religion.
Krakoa must have the world's best version of Devil-worship.
>I want the end of this plotline for it to be revealed she and Pietro were .mutants all along Doing that for Pietro might satisfy his fans, but Wanda would be so much better off remaining non-mutant, and the X-books never allowed to even mention her ever again.
Grayson Rogers
Albinos in Africa get killed. Muties gotta stick together.
David James
woof, Remender worked hard to defend himself here but Romani identity is an ethnic thing, not religious
Austin Perez
>the Wanda/Doctor Voodoo series he pitched got turned into a Quicksilver mini oh thank God. indeed
Cooper Reyes
>There could be a writer that gets them back together, then the next immediately tears them apart again. That all happened with the same writer, the breakup was meant to be temporary, he just didn't count on the book getting cancelled in the middle of that story, and then Bendis was Hawkeye's main writer again, so we got Hawkeye/Spider-Woman.
Cameron Garcia
The worst part for me is that I have no idea how to let marvel know I want Vision and Wanda together, possibly doing stuff in Classic Avengers fashion
>but Romani identity is an ethnic thing, not religious IIRC this was a last-minute edit to that page, Remender had written "Jewish", not "Romani" but someone remembered Wanda and Pietro were in their 20s when Magneto showed up and told them they were half-Jewish, and it's not their religion. They didn't bother re-writing the rest of the speech to not be about religion.
Easton Gomez
No, Wanda as a mutant would be the perfect fuck you to the holier than thou mentality of mutants/X-Men. To show that are mutants that don't want to take part of their orgy cult club or don't believe in their "us vs them" mumbo jumbo. Wanda as a mutant would be actually the only remaining mutant holding the torch of X-Men ideals, the real ones.
Thomas Rivera
Forgot about Bendis. I was talking about Fraction finalizing their divorce.
Adrian Cruz
Actually Wanda was pretty badass here and she got some point right.
Dylan Bailey
oh really. Editorial incompetence sounds about right.
Hudson Flores
See this is exactly I don't want Wanda anywhere X-Men bullshit
