Wanted to give a look at these points made by Marc Smith, story director of Frozen 2, because I think some may feel like they're very contrasting to what was actually delivered in the final film: >The Challenge with a Frozen sequel was to find a good story that would allow these characters to navigate conflict in a way that's entertaining, interesting and original. >But it also had to feel like a continuation of the first film, not like we're inventing new emotional problems. >Sequels should go deeper into the characters' emotional depths.
When comparing these points to what was ultimately shown on the screen, how do you think Frozen succeeded and failed with the emotional conflict of its characters?
All those people in all those positions and they make this turd
Elijah Campbell
Based Marc, I hope he gets to direct or co-direct the next film. Also, I think they failed in pretty much all of the emotional points. It was fun for the most part, though, at least for me.
The problem is the sisters in the movie feel at odds with where we last saw them at the end of the first movie and even the shorts, even if they don't want to acknowledge the latter.
Nolan Collins
Yes, for as much as some try to call OFA not canon, people still watched it, and they remember Elsa having a very different mindset than the one she had in F2
Lucas Ramirez
>not like we're inventing new emotional problems. This is where they failed the hardest, like holy shit did the conflict came out of fucking nowhere
Caleb Hughes
Conflict is fine, but they forgot to actually resolve it. The characters don't come to any understanding. Elsa just gets everything she wants, unilaterally imposes a new life on Anna, and fucking books it to the woods.
>But it also had to feel like a continuation of the first film, not like we're inventing new emotional problems. That's exactly what they did.
Andrew Anderson
>unresolved issues from THEIR childhoods >only ONE of them gets to finish the emotional journey and win their parents' love September 2020 and I'm still mad
Luis Nelson
I agree it came out of nowhere but, as this user said the problem is they forgot to resolve it It's ok if you want to introduce new shit, but at least give it a satisfactory conclusion.
Isaiah Flores
The OFA crew should be in charge of the franchise.
I 100% agree with you, OFA is just a good time all the way through.
Colton Young
>Sequels should go deeper into the characters' emotional depths. I completely agree with this, but the execution was questionable, to put it lightly.
Charles Martin
This decision is just mind-boggling to me. Their entire life, Anna and Elsa were united by the grief of losing their parents. Both of them suffered for decades, and the pain is still there. They bonded over it and grew closer. But for some insane reason, the writers decided to play favorites and only ease the pain for Elsa. It’s fine for Elsa to have her own personal journey to learn about her powers. But tying it directly to her mother’s love, and not sharing it with her sister? That’s horrible. They’ve made Elsa horrible.
Xavier Jones
Not to mention the canoe scene. I still can't believe that's actually a thing that actually happened, that was actually approved and made it into the final film.
Elijah Baker
The story went aimless for so long that they couldn't provide a good payoff for the characters' emtional conflicts It's really not that hard to see, and they were probably aware of it, but they didn't have the time to fix it This movie shouldn't have been greenlit until they had a more coherent script, but I assume this is common practice for them and they just couldn't crack it this time around
Liam Allen
In Elsa's case i can see that being true, since she went on a self discovery journey, Anna however was just a rehash of the previous movie and the conflict with her boyfriend was just retarded
Charles Morgan
As bad as the canoe was, at least that was one isolated event. The pain will fade in time. Keeping Mom’s ghost under wraps is a festering wound that makes Elsa worse and worse for every day she doesn’t spill the beans. Her once-equal sisterly relationship has become twisted and one-sided. Anna is getting emotionally canoed daily and she doesn’t even know it.
It would be interesting to see the OFA crew tackle a sequel. OFA was more of a light-hearted little adventure, so it's hard to judge how they would fare with a proper full-blown sequel.
Liam Green
I'd gladly welcome a lower stakes story for F3. I just need my fix of Anna and Elsa being cute, and singing catchy songs.
Brody Wilson
So what do you guys think of Jac Schaeffer (screenwriter for OFA) and Kate Anderson (songwriter for OFA)?
Gavin Reyes
That's what Frozen 2 should've been, a light-hearted adventure.
Too bad, a sequel 7 years later means thy have to “grow up with their audience”, and they seem to think their audience wants darkness and edgyness and the happiness they’ve built up to be destroyed instead.
Luke Wood
I think the writer would do well to return to animation. I don't want to derail the thread talking about her other projects, but I don't think she has fared too well after OFA.
Luis Cruz
They used the exact same excuse for Toy Story 4. “Kids are older now. They want suffering.” Has anyone at Disney actually talked to kids?
Landon Reed
Just got back from 2032 to see Frozen III and it's amazing, I hope time traveling doesn't mess this up your timeline like it did the last time someone visited this year
Dylan Campbell
And it's surprising how good of a job she did on OFA, considering it was the first thing she wrote after like 8 years since her last project. Live action is probably not her thing, as you say, she should probably go back to writing shorts and animated stuff.
