Why is an evil Superman copy more popular than Superman himself? Is Superman outdated?

>Noah Berlatsky

Oh shit, he's still writing? I lost track of how many times people turned against him on Twitter.

No, if it was they wouldn't need to shove it down throats so much.

Why do you keep doing this incel?

There's a weird thing where parodies of iconic stories and themes eventually become so common that they begin to eclipse the thing that they're parodying, and eventually become the media that introduces people to these concepts.

Which means people are coming in with a dose of cynicism that doesn't really come from being tired of these concepts, but because everything they've watched has some level of spoof or irony to it. I see it happen with Fantasy a lot. They eventually see the original ideas as tired, without nuance, and naive and only want more cynical versions.

It's weird, there's shitloads of comics about how if Superheroes are real they'd be cunts. Marshall Law, Brat Pack, The Boys, that other Garth Ennis joint where a batman knockoff rapes a dude with a jackhammer, Supreme, Watchmen, I'm sure there's more, and none of these are really bad comics, but, some sincerity could be healthy.

I don't think anyone considers it a "new concept". Just an enjoyably executed one. I don't consider Mao Mao a revolutionary new cartoon, but I really enjoy it. Shovel Knight didn't invent any of the things it did, it just did them well. Sometimes that's all you need to be is good.

>I don't think anyone considers it a "new concept".
These people do not read comics, they have a surface level understanding what happens in them and thats it. This is revolutionary in their minds.

No, it's just the power of Netfilx and TV

>Is Superman outdated?
Yes. That’s why Goku a more popular and iconic character.

The Boys is just more interesting than watching Superman. I still groan internally anytime I think of Superman’s last appearance on the big screen. There he was, quippy smiley Superman like his fans wanted, sucking the tension out of the entire room because he’s overpowered as shit.

What if superman instituted a fractional debt banking system?

You're projecting really hard. Chill out and stop pretending everyone who likes something you don't like is that specific twitter man you found one day.

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>Is Superman outdated?
I'm not denying he is, but I don't understand how just depicting a reskin of Earth-3's Ultraman ISN'T outdated.
Even turning the idea on it's head isn't fresh.

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>I don't think anyone considers it a "new concept".
Most people who don't still think it's a young idea from around the time of Injustice.
People barely even remember the Justice Lords, let alone the shit before it.

Carlton can defeat Superman

Because people are fucking stupid and think that Superman is a mary sue and should be a villain instead.

Almost all of the ones you listed work because they exist within the context of a comic book shop. They assume the demographic understands the status quo of what is being criticized.
Comics just aren't popular anymore though, so the public consciousness only really has movie heroes to go off of. And most modern depictions already poke fun at themselves or depict characters in cynical ways. It makes things like evil superman just seem like the natural progression from something like Man of Steel, not like a parody or critique of the traditional hero.

Yeah, still no. You keep pulling statements out of nonsense with a source of I assume "twitterman".

Almost no one is making any statement like that, they're just enjoying the show.

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Why does this Zig Forumstard keep bringing up twitter?

Yeah, like, kids are going to see Shrek before they read or hear the traditional fairy tales.

I agree that it's gone beyond the scope of comics, but even then I don't think I'm entirely wrong. How many people 'getting into' superheroes are going to watch something like Superfriends, Christopher Reeve's Superman, or even Justice League before Man of Steel?

They aren't. That's the point.

General TV audiences haven't seen all the other forms of media that cause a comic fan to view it as overdone.

Homelander Only Speaks to people who would have all that power and would never let it go.

Homelander Only Speaks to people who think that they are doing it for the greater good.

Homelander Only Speaks to people who think they know how others people should live.

Homelander Only speaks for people who think they are better then the rest.

Reason for the popularity of Homelander, People are selfish, cruel, greedy, horrible humans.

>You're projecting really hard.
He's not. The average person won't know what Red Son, Ultraman, or even Injustice is, beyond a few rudimentary basics. Do you think even 20% of people who played Injustice read the comic series, or remember the story mode?