Did Stan lee create any of the characters he's credited with?

>Ross actually pushes the question
>Lee thinks he's the sole creator because he wrote a concept
>He thinks the writing is the only thing that matters.
>Still won't say Steve IS the co creator.

I can't believe I'm saying it, but based Ross forcing that weasel to admit it on camera.

whats with peoples absolute hatred for Stan Lee? every single time hes brought up theres nothing but rage about how he was a hack or some shit like that.

Lee always cited that he was the co-creator and most of Kirby and Ditkos bellyaching should be aimed at marvel itself rather then Lee. Lee got as much royalties on his work as Ditko and Kirby did, which was none. he was a company man who didn't have such a high inflated mind of himself. whenever you'd hear Kirby talk about it, it would sound like he did everything, created every comic book character and in the most ludicrously grandious ways possible.

but, of course, because lee didnt doodle the guys he created, juat came up with their characteristics and personalities, he was a hack and stole their ideas.

No.

>whats with peoples absolute hatred for Stan Lee?
he confused the life forces of all those young artists for what, another 5 years of life?

He was a hack, a crook and a terrible person.

Because Zig Forums is Zig Forumsntrarian.

Based for saying the truth

He created Stan Lee, innit?

People seem to think he's Bob Kane and that he treated Ditko and Kirby like Finger.

Stan Lee is a fucking piece of shit holy goddamn

>I'm what you call an idea man
Now do all the work while I make a fortune off of it

Define what you mean with creating. He created them but not alone.
And we dont know how mch or what part.

Kinda this. Same goes for Kirby. All his stuff he is famous for are DC or Marvel stuff!

Jack Kirby has said he made Daredevil, Dr. Strange and Spider-man multiple times on different occasions and his recounting of creating characters with stan lee are so self aggrandizing that its pure fiction.

in his own words, he supposedly walked into timely comics with the fantastic four completely crafted when he walked into Martin goodmans office with a Stan Lee crying in the corner as he set up his creation saying this was going to save them from bankruptcy.

honestly, does that sound more realistic then Stan Lee saying they came up with the stuff together? furthermore, what can be gathered was Steve Ditkos biggest problem with Lee was he was changing the Objectivist viewpoint of spider-man way too much.
yeah but Stan Lee never stopped praising Kirby or Ditko when it came to their input. he always made a note saying that he had nothing to do with the silver surfer, the web shooters were all Steves Idea, and that wally wood was the one who came up with the red uniform for DD because he thought the yellow one was silly looking.

this isn't up to debate, Lee acknowledges the contribitions other men have done while those same men give Lee absolutely none.

>this isn't up to debate
I'm not disagreeing with you.
I don't think Stan was a saint that did no wrong but people for some fucking reason blow everything out of proportion and paint him as a conman that stole all the credit.

>showing drawings for a writer

Gee, talking about dumb baits.

This board is infested whit retards who loathes what's popular, how does this surprises you?

Stan isn't Bob Kane.

How?

You can't blame him for Marvel putting him as face of Marvel Comics. Also Ditko didn't nor Kirby wanted to be that guy.

Kirby isn't any better with his claims that he created Hulk and Spiderman. And If you have read anything Kirby that isn't written by Stan it isn't very good.

There's a reason Stan Lee has a legacy. While Ditko and Kirby's non Stan Lee works are only read for their novelty.