Star Trek

Picard is fine, just think of it like a long Trek movie and not as a show.

Didn't help that the writers clearly never saw a single episode of TNG

And the recycled Mass Effect plot, and the retarded baseless re-imagining of the Romulans, and the unearned dystopian feel of the setting, and the wildly out of character moments, and the self-indulgent gore, and the plotholes caused by telling this kind of story in the Star Trek setting, and the artless political soapboxing, and the CGI vomit action scenes, and the self-contradicting plot and character traits, and the overall lack of respect for the intelligence of the viewing audience.

Picard was a disaster and the only people who liked it are the people who didn't like any other Star Trek series

Why androids? Why fucking androids? I don't fucking understand why that was their go-to plot for Picard! Androids in Star Trek were always more or less a novelty, good for background world development but ultimately not that important on the galactic scale (especially with threats like the Cardassians or the Borg just over the horizon).

Also, just my personal opinion but wouldn't Picard actually really fucking hate being an android? I mean, he's still got a lot of trauma from being assimilated so I can't imagine he'd be happy to wake up and see his body has been replaced with pure cybernetics.

No thanks I'm good on Rick and Morty with ST painted on.

The core premise - Data has some sort of a progeny, Picard has to rescue her because Starfleet is being racist against robots - is perfectly sound. Data literally built himself a daughter in the original series, and Starfleet has never been tolerant of artificial life - that's been shown over and over and over again across all previous entries into the franchise.
But the series has been shitting the bed since, like, episode 2. As soon as I heard the explanation about how "Data's entire neural network can be reconstituted from a single neuron" and then about how "The organic androids have to be built in pairs because ??????" I was already getting a headache from all the techno-nonsense that really didn't need to be explained.
And then the actual story began, which made it all even worse.
I could have stopped when they revealed the Secret Super Secret Double Plus Secret Romulan Secret Police, but I kept on going. I kept on going through the worst cases of "ooooOOOoooh, look, EVERYTHING WAS CONNECTED ALLL ALLOOOOONG, aren't we clever!" I've seen in my whole life, specifically the reveal that Riker's son died from a disease that "used to be easily curable with medicine made inside an android brain" and the ship captain who seemingly had 0 connection to the main story actually having PTSD from a mission just coincidentally involving sentient androids.
Picard hurts. Picard hurts, because it's some of the dumbest stuff to ever happen in Star Trek, and it's, unfortunately, not just a single standalone disconnected episode that can be easily forgotten.

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>Dude this show is nothing like Rick and Morty you're just a hater
>LOL LOOK THESE PEOPLE ARE DISABLED HAHA FUCK THE DISABLED HAHA

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Star fleet being racist against robots makes sense. Starfleet refusing to help the Romulsns does not.

>Starfleet has never been tolerant of artificial life

Measure of A Man says otherwise

>Androids that should absolutely not be party to slave labor because of the precedent Picard set in TNG are slaves
>They "go crazy" (get hacked) and kill everyone on Utopia Planetia which is on the surface for some reason even though ships have to be built in space
>So the Federation stops evacuating Romulans (????????????????????)
>All the Romulan ships that could evacuate people are on shore leave I guess
>And their empire doesn't exist I guess so now the Romulans live in an old west shanty

The worst part of Picard was that it made the events of Abrams Star Trek canon

Only lazy fucks compare LD to R&M.

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To be fair, that was a precedent set on a brand new space station in the span of like two days, I can easily see Starfleet as an organization not appreciating that as a ruling.

That said, Starfleet always tends to publicly follow their own rules (yes, I know about Section 31, but that was all shit done in secret) so just brazenly ignoring Measure of a Man's ruling like it didn't happen and treating androids like slaves is stupid as shit.

I wish Picard was good. There were soo many possibilities other than "It's Romulans".

>Those parasites that tried to take over Starfleet
>The Dominion
>The Borg
>Q testing Picard still
>The Klingons
>The Breen

in a timeline that will never touch the main story
who cares

>NUH-UH
Go suck your corporate dick some more, faggot
T'ana is Squanchy and you'll never unsee it.
This show keeps getting worse, and looking at the writing credits it's easy to see why. Actors and people whose only credits are fucking She-Ra and McMahan's last project. One staff writer making the episode by himself.

It never stood a chance.

>Those parasites that tried to take over Starfleet
I totally forgot about those guys.

based Kenshiro poster

show is silly, sure I don't like when they mock serious stuff (opening sequence: Cerrito's big Nope on joining Wolf 259 battle, it's funny only for cons00ming sōibois) or when Mary Sue-ing Mariner. It's best when there is Futurama-like humor.
Ther should be more focus on sexual tensions exploding into cute couples, especially the 4 ensigns.
Tendi is best girl, Mariner when not marysueing is not all insufferable.
Tendi's dog The Dog is The Thing from the movie btw.

I want those subspace aliens from Schisms to come back. That episode was legit scary and I'm salty it's never been revisited.

In all fairness, there was a later episode of TNG where non-humanoid machines accidentally gained sentience, and the scientist who made them reacted with "oh, that's a bug, we just gotta make it so that they stop gaining sentience and can continue being tools".
Voyager had The Doctor actively fighting for his rights as an author, and it did show holographic manual workers - which was retarded, but technically did happen, and definitely served to reinforce the fact that artificial life is not treated fairly.
When Moriarty came into being, despite his promises, Picard and the crew put 0 effort into actually helping him become a real boy, instead they tricked him into being stuck in a simulation.

I can absolutely buy that Maddox (or whoever made the martian androids) simply said "oh, I removed the Soul subroutine from their brains, so now it's fine to put them into manual labor" and then everybody was fine with it.
Or, you know, the show could have very easily simply said
>Despite multiple precedents showing that artificial life is just as real as organic life, Starfleet continued to treat it as inferior
and that would have sufficiently lampshaded it.

I want Nagilum from "Where Silence Has Lease" to come back.

>T'ana is Squanchy
You're just saying shit.

>In all fairness, there was a later episode of TNG where non-humanoid machines accidentally gained sentience, and the scientist who made them reacted with "oh, that's a bug, we just gotta make it so that they stop gaining sentience and can continue being tools".
I remember that episode, it ended with the newly sentient race sacrificing one of their own to save the Enterprise.

The Voyager episode was pretty retarded, man. Holograms using pickaxes? The fuck?

But really my main issue with the Androids on Utopia Planetia isn't them being slaves (though it's a huge problem) or that they got hacked and killed everyone
It's this: What the fuck does androids blowing up Mars have to do with evacuating Romulus?

The episode was fine but it cemented Mariner as the worst thing about this show. It certainly drained a lot of my enthusiasm about LD going forward. I mean, imagine if your underdog, lower-decker character is really so awesome that she could be a captain, but chooses not to.
Fuck this kind of writing. The episode had all of the pieces of make this character more likeable, more vulnerable but instead they doubled-down on the "i'm too cool for space-school" shit.

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The only thing that was fine about the episode was Tendi's dog.
Everything else ranged from boring to infuriating