What went wrong here?

What went wrong here?

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First of all he's ugly

I don't know what else is wrong, but right off the bat that guy isn't very believeable as a martial artist.

He's cute, but that "beard" is atrocious.
Also, this.

Shit actor and too much drama

bad fight scenes, bad drama.

Second, he looks like he just started doing push ups two weeks ago.

Choreography. I've probably watched 300 kung fu movies in my life and it's the spectacle that draws me back. Whether it's watching tightly linked fights that sells the idea of a legitimate battle between martial artist, or outrageous, exaggerated, improbable maneuvers that dazzle even though a laymen can see they'd be impossible.

Bad action scenes, horrible script, actor didn't give a fuck, but Colleen was really cute
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Bad casting, bad writing, bad choreography, no budget, no time, franchise that doesn't fit the tone they wanted.
It never stood a snowball's chance in hell.

He was LITERALLY expected to be on set within two weeks. Cox had three months to trains. It took them that long to lockdown a direction for a character so mystical that they had a time crunch.

>He's miscast.
>The plot was too focused on soap opera drama.
>The siblings were boring.
>The martial arts choreography was terrible.
>Pretty much no K'un-Lun.
>No K'un-Lun means his origin isn't really shown.
>He seems too weak.
>The Hand were made into some weird cult-like multicultural summer camp.
This sums it up.

he looks like a fag

>expected to be on set within two weeks.
and what was the excuse on season 2 and Defenders?....................

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So knowing they had a time crunch they specifically cast a dude that had the body of an eighties coked out anorexic musician?

remove the mask was one of the biggest mistakes, all the action scenes could be done with a real martial artist.

yeah honestly, Iron Fist should've been done by a trained martial artist.

Filming for the Iron Fist ran into The Defenders. Don't know about the second season, though.
I reckon the AAIronFist/Mighty Whitey backlash was a problem and got into their heads. Jones was asked directly about it and he says that 'Danny isn't a white savour, he couldn't even save himself'. It seems they wanted detractors to get onto their side so they make him look weak and really nerfed Danny's character. He's doesn't look like a fighter and Colleen has to teach him. But, this only makes the audience question why the fuck is this guy the 'Champion of K'un-Lun, anyway? Inadvertently making them look like a very weak people and Danny an actual White Saviour, anyway. It was a MASSIVE overcorretion.
Then in season 2 they continue to destroy Danny's character by him giving Colleen the Fist and her having the final fight with Davos.


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Here is a concept fight video from one of the fight choreographers and using Jones' actual stunt man. As you see in the comments, people are talking about how good the fight scene is. In three seasons they didn't give Danny a costume and It seemed they were afraid of showing how actual good at martial arts Danny is, for some reason...

1) The budget for the show went into DD, JJ and Luke Cage.
2) They filmed the show rushed
3) There was no reason it should be 13 hours long.
4) Fight scenes were practiced minutes before filming.
5) Fucking made the Hand generic nothing. They were no longer ninjas.

>>The siblings were boring.
Hey now! Ward was by FAR Best Boy. Absolute best part of the show.

Even if it had decent action the whole shtick of Iron Fist is based around the blacksploitation evolution of Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee's style and trappings.
Iron Fist should not be in a drama trying to say something about modern capitalism and politics, he should be in a dumb straightforward beat-em-up plot no more complicated than fucking Double Dragon.

The Marvelix shows had critics stars shining with themes about gentrification, rape culture, ect. It's not like you can't work in important themes for Danny's story. It's already there. But, it's about how you do it. You need a good writer with a deft hand. AKA not Scott Buck.

Be it about privilege, power, being an immigrant I'm coming back to your parents place where you have a natural superpower but you don't fit. Maybe even be about identity and being essentially a child soldier.

Also remember that other than the whole internet backlash, they didn't really have the budget to show K'un-Lun in all its glory. It should have never been on Netflix with a small budget anyway. That blame goes always to Jeph Loeb.

I agree that you can have more adult or modern themes, but you need to pick ONE and focus on it. A kung-fu movie is like a musical, it needs to be relatively simple so it can focus on emotion.

Two things:

Show was rushed.

Not enough time for the MC to get believable with kung-fu/didn't cast someone with martial arts experience.

it should've been a duo show with luke cage, there's no reason to separate them out

he same problem with Birds of Prey, they tried to bring in actors who don't know how to fight, who are physically a joke and the story sucks and they don't respect the source, not using the classic costumes

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Tbf, this is the TV show. A 13 hour TV show more than enough time to actually develop his character, but he felt more like a cypher. The worst thing they did was changing his origin. It's very important that he knows who killed his parents, but in the show he basically loves Harold like a second father.

He just felt so all over the place and he was still 'finding himself~' after 3 seasons. It's really clear they didn't know what to do with Danny, that's why they gave everything and sundry to Colleen. It was a huge disservice to the character and his fans. Unlike others, I'm not going to blame his actor over things he had zero control over.

>JJ
>budget
Where?

I liked it, second best Marvel Netflix thing after DD S1

I'm sure hiring a man responsible for the decline of a popular series AND the single most widely hated series finale before GoT stole its thunder may have something to do with it.

The show runner is the same show runner of Dexter season 8

that guy is gay, has low T, is not an athlete (he's a theater nerd without an athletic bone in his body) and didn't practice the choreography. This guy is just a bad actor and I hope his career is over.