Why is his run of The Amazing Spider-Man considered among the best when he is also responsible for Spider-Totem making Peter the Chosen One, Sins Past and (he's not innocent, at least partially) One More Day?
Outside of the issues related to that I'd say his run was good but...those are some low lows.
Because he was writing spider-man when most of Zig Forums started reading comics
He made Babylon 5.
Spider totems are one of the stupidest things to have been introduced to the series. There’s been horrible shit like one more day and sins past but the spider totems takes the cake for being the lamest shit
Oh come on. It's lame but to say it's worse than Sins Past and One More Day is ludicrous.
Sins Past at least is...largely ignored by everyone (as it should be), but OMD's effects are still being felt today and it is the single stupidest, most destructive thing introduced into Spider-Man. Way worse than the Totem.
>JMS
Falling Stars was his better comic run.
Anti-Slottfags made a narrative and spread it on every social media platform, JMS was shit throughout and most issues weren't fun
Slott is horrible too, but I feel as though JMS gets away with more (and he shouldn't).
They're bad but there's no fucking way that they're worse than Sins Past or OMD
Because a lot of people started reading Spider-Man with JMS so they're willing to overlook the ludicrous amount of bad shit that his run had. Plus everyone mostly blames Quesada for everything that went wrong with Spider-Man in that era (not that they're wrong).
Slott's not as good as classic writers but he was the best fit compared to JMS, Spencer, Taylor, Waid and Zdarsky.
I still think Jenkins should of got more to do, enjoyed his Spider-Man stories as well as those from Wells, Jeff Parker, McKeever, Van Lente, PAD, Millar, Robbie Thompson, Dezago and others during the past two decades too.
>Slott's not as good as classic writers but he was the best fit compared to JMS, Spencer, Taylor, Waid and Zdarsky.
No
most of JMS' works consists of the theme of familial bonds such as the father/son dynamic which is why its so cohesive within each story. for example Ezekiel represented the gap left by Uncle Ben and Peter's father and the powers acted as the legacy we leave behind to our future generations. JMS was so close of properly retiring Peter for the next spider-man but you just cant go against corporate. I think thats why some overlook the glaring inconsistencies, plus the added hatred toward Quesada and the sale to Disney only further exacerbating long time fans.
Grounded
Adult Peter doing adult things like teaching and fighting with MJ were compelling and the worst parts of his run were editorial mandates.
OMD killed Spidey sales and they didn't recover to pre-OMD levels until like... over a decade later.
Because his characterizations were legitimately great. Especially compared to Slott whose characters had all the depth of a puddle of tea I just spilled on the table and that's me being generous.
His jokes were funny.
There was actually a sense of growth for Peter. That's too bad that point is moot by now.
Spider-totem shit is lame, but it never bothered me as much as it does most people here.
>Slott's not as good as classic writers but he was the best fit compared to JMS, Spencer, Taylor, Waid and Zdarsky.
Wow, that's some genuine shit taste.
>Why is his run of The Amazing Spider-Man considered among the best
Is it?
I just find it weird that I had seldom seen people shitting on The Other here, and even defending it sometimes.
As it turns out, Zig Forums isn't one person.
And a lot of people have shit taste
Jenkins is so underrated among Spidey fans.
Jenkins can either make gold or garbage. The problem is people remember him for garbage.
that one issue made me cry
>Spider-totem shit is lame, but it never bothered me as much as it does most people here.
Why not? It was an awful thing to try and recontextualise his whole history. It felt really stupid and forced.
This. He wrote some massively retarded stuff but his characterizations were excellent. And the jokes were legit funny.
JMS has really good character voice. For all the bad shit that happens in his run, Peter feels like Peter.
When JMS started writing ASM, Spider-Man had been a garbage fire for so long that a writer who could write Peter and MJ well was good enough. Everyone hears about how bad the Clone Saga was, but the Howard Mackie/John Byrne era of Spider-Man that followed it was also extremely, extremely bad. There's a lot to complain about with JMS's run, but he wrote a Peter Parker that was relatable and true to the character. As readers, we let a lot of shit slide.
False. People were sucking JMS's dick while the run was on-going. Slott's run being shit has nothing to do with it.
Even when JMS was on Spider-Man, I saw back then there were some people on other sites who liked JMS' Spider-Man that absolutely hated Slott's She-Hulk. They didn't have to create a narrative that late in.
Rising Stars is still his best comic work.
Except for Sins Past and One More Day which were full of editorial fuckery, his work was largely good in isolation and a vacuum, it's only when you frame it in the larger context of being part of ASM and the supposed main canon for Spider-Man is when the implications make it not worth it. I enjoyed Morlun and the Spider-Totem on their own, but I don't think they should be a core part of the character and his mythos.
This
>30 years of your flagship title
>one good run that still ends in a tailspin
Sasuga Marvel