This shitshow is unironically where DC wanted to take their comics

>Honestly should we be worried still?
Should you be worried for a retarded publisher doing retarded things? my answer is no.
Unless you are part of the small group of dumb idiots who still reads this garbage.

I already hate "modern" Jon, it's kinda incredible how fast they managed to completely mess up a character.

Worried about what?

Honestly, I think it would have went exactly as Didio intended, which was to fail. He wanted to crash the current continuity with no survivivors where he would get another reboot where he could restore all his favorite silver and bronze age characters where he wanted them and be able to get rid of all the sidekicks, legacies, marriages and kids he didn't like. This was intended as a deliberate act of self sabotage.

>Honestly should we be worried still?
I gave up hope a while ago. Just sticking around to watch the trashfire.

I laughed when i saw the Superman/Wonder Woman book. The dude will net let that shit go.

They aren't going to completely overhaul the line twice in less than six months. At Most Future State might be brought back as a 2099 sideline or we get Yara Flores in the present.

Not going to lie that sounds pretty based, adding stuff to characters and developing them is dumb keep it all the same like how I liked it back in the day

I like the idea, what’s wrong with it? It actually pushes the plot forward for once.
You just described Marvel ultimate which is a good thing.

You know, the Yara Flor situation makes me think. The biggest problem with the All-New, All-Different Marvel relaunch and this Future State business is that you're not really giving readers new characters to latch unto. You're basically giving them the same ol' Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman but with a re-skin.
Even if everyone end up loving Yara Flor as a character the biggest hurdle the character has to face is the fact that she's just another Wonder Woman and we already have a Wonder Woman - who the publisher have a hard time already making shit for. Now imagine DC having with two Wonder Women on their hands competing for space.

DC seems intent on not only selling the old Wonder Woman because of movie synergy, but also now Nubia for being the fact she's a black character tied to Wonder Woman's lore. And then there's now Yara Flor. Honestly, how will DC be able to juggle these characters?

They are for 2 months and they are fully returnable. There is no big loss for LCSs.

I could believe he'd do that, but the problem is that this thing would be an even bigger risk than before.

The New 52 worked at first only because it was the first full reboot in a long time. Marvel showed in the 2010s that if you keep relaunching and renumbering the titles, the audience eventually gets fatigued and sales drop badly.

His poor choices in trying to switch course after Rebirth (having Wally used the way he was in HiC, having Bendis given control of the Superman titles) took away the goodwill from the start of Rebirth and didn't gain them anything, even if he might be right about Rebirth not doing well in TPB form. 5G and another relaunch would not get that back, because now the audience is even more distrustful than before and you have left/right Twitter/Youtube outrageshillers fanning the flames, which doesn't really help their sales.

Except it'll nuke their long term sales. Remember what happened after Convergence and how sales for DCYou were in the gutter for its entire existence.

People would have complained for the simple fact that the 5G relaunch intended to make the old heroes too fucking old. Batman, for example, would have debuted in the 50's and be dead by the time the actual fifth generation of heroes appeared.

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>but the problem is that this thing would be an even bigger risk than before.

I think Didio's tenure demonstrates is that he wasn't running DC as some sort of business, but rather as his personal playground/fanfic. The crap with Herald was the epitome of his arrogance and toxic views of the fans.

But this raises even more questions though, if Batman's career started in the 50's, then who was police commissioner since that timeline says Gordon was briefly Batman during G4?

Tom King's shitty run being literally the end chapter of Batman mythos is fucking depressing as shit.

Don't forget Brian Bendis' run being the end chapter of Superman stories.

I think they answered that hyper-time made shit possible. I need to investigate. Wait a bit...

I think it just shows how self absorbed he was in trying to get the DC universe he wanted, rather than one that appealed the actual audience. You can just look at HiC and Bendis Superman books as examples. The Superman situation seems like a direct attempt to get back to the DCYou status quo as much as he could manage. Superman's ID is public, Jon is written out, Clark and Lois are living like a non married couple. I wouldn't be surprised if they planned to get rid of Lois entirely given her initial accompaniment of Jon and Jor-El, but a voice of reason pointed out he was pushing things too far. He just couldn't accept or see that comic readers didn't share his feelings on things. Plus, he had been at DC so long I think he probably got cocky thought in his head he was untouchable, WB would always give him another chance.

Here it is:

comicsbeat.com/dc-5g-is-nigh-check-out-generation-one-age-of-mysteries/
>For nearly a year, DC Co-Publisher Dan DiDio has been hinting at a new official timeline for the shared superhero universe, one that includes the entirety of the publisher’s 80-plus years of superhero continuity. DiDio first mentioned this timeline at SDCC in July, before giving a quick glimpse of it to the audience at NYCC in October. In that timeline, there are five generations. Wonder Woman is the first superhero to reveal herself to the world, kicking off the first generation in World War I (see the Snyder/Hitch short that will also be in the FCBD issue). A second generation starts with the appearance of Superman, and a third spans from Crisis on Infinite Earths (1986) to Flashpoint (2011). The fourth generation is the one we’re in now, and a fifth generation is yet to come.
>The rumor is this will all be made possible by a mix of Hypertime and Crisis, explaining how characters like Batman, for example, could have been active for so many years. We learned today that we’re getting a one-shot that takes place within each of those generations, and the subtitles for these books seem to imply that the above chronological demarcations were correct (yay!).

And this is exactly why when 5G failed, as I believe Didio planned it to, that they would have been forced to reboot the universe, to de-age the primary line of DC Heroes back to their early 20's, just like the New 52. Also he would have wiped out the JSA, wipe out any and all marriages and kids, wipe out most of the Batfamily (Only Batman and Barbara would have been guaranteed to come back. I'm not sure he even would have tried to sell Dick as Robin given how much he hates Dick Grayson), possibly wipe out the Titans. Basically bring back the New 52 but even more things being reset to scratch becuse he wouldn't be obligated to keep the GLC or Batfamily mostly intact.

It was a plan to crash things with no survivors, so he could start over again.