So...why is it Harry? And why does he hate Peter?

So...why is it Harry? And why does he hate Peter?

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Pete creampied Gwen when her father told him to stay away(yeah, that is comics canon). Barely anyone remembers that part, only that Gwen dies.

I've seen this sort of tease before with Hush briefly being thought to be Jason Todd. Until he's actually unmasked, I'm keeping a small bit of skepticism.

It's a red herring. Why would Harry dig up Gwen's dad?

Literally who cares when's SJWs are killing comics,Vidya and now tabletop RPGs

I doubt it is a red herring. Marvel already said on Twitter this issue was going to reveal who it is. They can’t come out again and say here so it really is a couple weeks later.

Harry WAS one of the changes coming out of OMD.
As such we could say it was caused by it. Se we all assume it was Goblin formula kicking in, but forgot Harry took an experimental serum and not the original.

This only begs the question as to how does Harry manage to look human and not a rotting zombie all the time since he managed to have another kid and get sort of back with Liz again.

Or there’s two Harry’s and the split soul thing was right, just with the wrong character. Spencer did it with Peter already and this is basically Hell’s Payback.

Norman is actually referring to his other son
Spidercide

>So...why is it Harry?
Because you're watching a perpetual motion soap opera in colored tights and the writers can't think of new characters.

More like, bringing Harry back was a spiteful move by Quesada and company to regress shit.

There was ZERO reason to bring Harry back and more to the point, he's done jack shit to warrant being brought back.

Making Kindred Harry means that they can send Harry back to the graveyard for good.

It's totally a fakeout and not Harry. Suddenly everyone just forgot Kindred's wall of weird. It's Gabriel Stacy.
>Norman's son
>Sins Past teased constantly
>Harry would never desecrate Gwen's grave.

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They could have salvaged Harry's return had they just stated that the Harry from JMD's Spectacular run was a Skrull. JMD wrote Harry completely out of character as it was to justify him being evil again. So might as well declare it a Skrull if you intend to bring Harry back as a generic goody-goody.

Plus it would have given Norman a LEGIT hate boner for spending like 5-6 years trolling the Avengers, if he was butt-hurt that Tony and company had gotten his son kidnappened set into motion Norman doing the Clone Saga to avenge him and come back and alienate everyone in the process, given how respected Norman was by everyone until he came back and started openly acting evil due to him being butt-hurt over Harry's death

isn't spidercide the jackal's son?

Yes but Norman was the mastermind behind the whole Clone Saga so you could say he helped create Spidercide

Gabefags literally worst than S'cidefags

>who cares about actual comics when we could be complaining about things in other media!

So getting mad at things is basically your hobby

You're awfully upset for no reason at all. What is this, your first fakeout reveal?

Probably like a reverse black cat situation. Losing her memories of Peter fucked with Felicia and made her turn bad while regaining the memories of Peter did the opposite.

I didn't like OMD, but I did think that some of those early stories and the Gauntlet were okay

But if we're going to be getting OMD fallout for the next 20-30 years of Spider-Man comics, I'd rather Peter have died or something, bloody hell

Gabe was not at the party in the past, he never died either. Hell, Harry sent him to jail in the last story he was in.

Harry seemed cool with Peter around the time he died. You would think he might have a bigger beef with Hobgoblin or Tombstone.

I don't see why he gives a shit about Mysterio at all, or even known him.

Dude we're dealing with fucking magic here. Nearly anything is on the table. You see the shit Kindred has done already? I think he can get that knowledge, and Spencer can easily have Gabriel die at some point.

Hell, we have no idea how Kindred got so OP

My guess is that Harry really did die back in Spectacular Spider-Man #200 and the explanation he gave that his father helped fake his death and kept him in rehab clinics in Europe was a lie. My guess is that Mephisto brought him back to life after One More Day as his agent to torment Spider-Man and either implanted false memories into Harry or Harry was just lying. People don't just become powerful demons when they die, Mephisto must be the one empowering him. This will lead into Nick Spencer's true goal: to finally have Peter have to face consequences over making a deal with Mephisto for One More Day.

We take it from what we have.
By that token Kindred is Uncle Ben...

Kindred is a character who died and was part of Peter’s youth.
That’s Flash and Harry.

Shows it’s Harry. The reveal is that the genetic duplicate was acting as Harry all along and Kindred is the real deal.
Clone Saga: Curly Hair Edition.

So fucking dumb
Out of the last three times Ive picked up a Spiderman comic, two of them had Harry either turning evil or coming back from the dead. No wonder people get burned out on capeshit

>By that token Kindred is Uncle Ben
user come on, don't be like that. It's perfectly reasonable to think that this is Gabriel. Not only has Sins Past been teased constantly in this run, but Norman phrases the reveal as "his son", not directly Harry. Furthermore, Kindred is looking into one of his various looking glasses, so who's to say he's not peering in on his big brother Harry? And most importantly, even at Harry's craziest, he never would have done this to Gwen. He couldn't bring himself to kill MJ, and he wouldn't do this. If it IS Harry than this is some sort of backpedal on his character, because not only did he make peace with Peter the first time he died, he's been trying to live a normal life with Normie and Liz this entire time as seen in Venom.

>Sins Past teased constantly
Why would anyone do that? I thought the unwritten agreement was to let that shit fade away and be forgotten. This is like if Marcus returned to Captain Marvel.

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Norman has also called Peter his son on multiple occasions.

There's only one reason to bring it up, and that's to clean it up. Part of Spencer's run has been canon cleanup. We've seen it with Kraven, Felicia, MJ, and quite possibly both Sins Past and OMD if that's what he's hinting at. The clues thus far have been
>Sins Rising, the name alone a hint and the constant sin talk
>Norman's creepy ass advances on Ghost Spider
>The entire theme of family being hammered home.

It's not out of the question to think Gabe is back. Hell Spencer brought Teresa back for fuck sake.

im lowkey hoping spencer retcons sins past by making gabe actually peter's kid but norman fucked w gwen and peter's heads so they both forgot that they had the sex just to fuck with peter's life

Ok ill bite.
If it is Gabe, explain the whole demon thing.

Harry was a goblin, went to hell and came back from Peter’s deal with Mephisto as collateral. Simple as.
How about Gabe?