So now we finally know who Kindred is, but we still lack the WHY. What are the implications of this reveal, and what does this mean moving forward in Spider-Man?
So now we finally know who Kindred is, but we still lack the WHY. What are the implications of this reveal...
Brandon Foster
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Elijah Allen
It raises a lot of questions about whether any of the information we were previously given about how Harry survived will still be true, and also about Harry's mother being alive in Slott's last story.
Matthew Anderson
Good to hear, can't wait for this thing to be over.
Jace Hughes
New solicits are out for issues post Last Remains ASM #56-58:
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• One era of Nick Spencer’s run comes to a shocking end this issue…
• But the seeds that he’s planted along the way for the next start to bloom.
• Don’t miss this pivotal issue!
Guesses on the shocking end to an era?
Parker Ortiz
Ignoring the magic centipede bullshit, this raises the big question as to why Harry is suddenly acting like this. As far as we knew, he had made peace with Peter a long time ago. What changed, if anything?
You don't actually read Spidey and just want to bitch, don't you?
Andrew Howard
Also, how the fuck did he get magical powers from hell?
Charles Wilson
I read it when it interests me. This plot doesn't.
Owen Taylor
A question; are we sure someone or something isn't using Harry as a vessel?
And yet you're here anyway. Fuck off.
James Moore
Fuck off to you as well lmao. I'm just happy to see this plot getting close to being concluded. This kind of 'detective' stuff with 'torment' and pseudo horror really doesn't work for modern Spidey stories. Hope they will make this whole thing to have some lasting effects so we can move on to something interesting.
Adrian Rogers
Seems Kingpin is going to come in and intersect with the current plot.
So, we have the chameleon plot and whatever the conclusion to post Last Remains makes.
Zachary Taylor
But how does that work when Norman is currently cleansed?
Ryan Anderson
A return to Silver Age split-personality Norman? Good Norman is Iron Patriot again, bad Norman is Green Goblin?
Jordan Powell
>What changed, if anything?
If he really did die and go to Hell, that could have changed everything.
The last time Mysterio was in the book, the story given was that Kindred went from being a dead man condemned to Hell, to climbing the ranks and becoming what he is now.
Jose Adams
OMD might be the whole thing. Peter made a deal with the devil to lose his marriage. Harry was brought back as sleeper spy.
Peter got back with MJ, so Mephisto powered up Harry and got him to work.
The question now is why is Mephisto so dead set in making sure Peter and MJ don’t stay together?
Ryan Taylor
>If he really did die and go to Hell, that could have changed everything.
Tortured to turn evil wasn't interesting when it happened to Ben Reilly and it won't be interesting for Harry.
Whatever the reason, it has to be something we've seen and know about.
Kevin Bennett
Even when Harry went Goblin, I don't see that as a reason to go to hell. At his worst, Harry was still a victim of his father, and in the end died trying to do the right thing.
Blake Lee
Spencer's all but stating that Harry saw One More Day going down
>I think Kindred’s voice scratching at the back of Peter’s head is what’s unsettling. More than that, this feeling Pete has, that something is not quite right or recognizable about his life, that it’s somehow all a dream and he’s being swept along, trapped in a kind of hopeless cycle, that’s what’s truly terrifying.
> Something is in the house. Pete can’t see it, but he can feel it. Things happened that he doesn’t remember, or doesn’t want to remember, and now there’s a ghost haunting him.
Jose Rogers
I'd love to believe, but how many times has Marvel baited it now?
Jordan Price
Spencer has been baiting both OMD and Sins Past hard this entire run. Peter has the ring, and last issue he outright talks to Doctor Strange about "making a deal with a demon". Though I question how Sins Past fits in to all of this
Xavier Cox
What about the schemes he still had in motion after he'd died, like Peter's robot parents?
Jayden Nelson
I'm justt annoyed that Harry's going to fall into the pile of edgy, 'i hate hurting people' whilst happily hurting people, mwahaha my master plan villains.
Shit, I thought the one upside to him being brought back was that at least they couldn't pull this.
Dominic Hernandez
> • You will never look at Norman or Harry Osborn the same again.
> • We know SPIDER-MAN won’t.
If that’s not confirmation I don’t know what is. I thought the mirror from last issue may have been a portrait based on the frame but it’s officially not a red herring. Interested to see how this all plays out
Connor Walker
To be fair, he died pretty quickly and was falling apart all over the place so I figured, outside of it being a retcon, he probably just forgot about it.
I don't know if they hold it against you if you change your ways but fail to stop the bad thing you set off from happening.
Honestlly though, I always figured he'd land in purgatory if anything.
Xavier Reyes
>Norman’s face on that cover
I guess he’s back already. Didn’t expect Sin-Eater’s effects to last long anyway, maybe Harry’s defeat at the end of the arc undoes all the damage he’s done so far
Camden Barnes
How is it Harry? He's literally alive and was saved by Pete during the Red Goblin thing
Camden Baker
Why would Harry Osborn become a demon over One More Day though?
Aaron Hernandez
The best theory I can think of is that when Harry died, he stayed dead, and the Harry we’ve had since OMD isn’t the real one because the real one’s been in Hell all this time. Doesn’t change the fact that he was on good terms with Peter when he died so it’s not perfect, but I imagine the explanation will come next issue
Levi Anderson
So assuming the Harry we have is fake, where did this fake Harry come from?
Hudson Reyes
Could be an LMD, could be a clone, maybe Mephisto made him as another consequence of OMD... no idea.
Nathan Campbell
Going by what he said to Stan Carter in the last issue, there was something bad he did that he refused to repent for.
Jayden Flores
But clones of dead people are resurrections. We learned that in the latest Clone event, plus that's how the X-men's entire society functions
Logan Murphy
Dammit this shit would make more sense if they just made it so that Ben went crazy again
Blake Smith
>and what does this mean moving forward in Spider-Man?
It means absolutely nothing. As soon as Spencer leaves the book, this story arc will be abandoned completely. That's how comic books work.
Are you completely new to this hobby? I'm asking sincerely.
Cooper Phillips
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Austin Lee
>Ignoring the magic centipede bullshit, this raises the big question as to why Harry is suddenly acting like this.
In a tragic callback to Amazing Spider-Man #97, we learn that Harry never died, he's just back on the dope. Peter must once again save his friend from his tortuous drug addiction!
Justin Moore
>But clones of dead people are resurrections. We learned that in the latest Clone event,
Only the specific cloning method being used in that story. Stop trying to apply it to every Marvel clone story.
>plus that's how the X-men's entire society functions
The Empyre X-Men mini and the latest issue of Marauders have explored characters doubting that it truly is resurrection, and they may end up being proved right.
Nathan Martin
Twist. Peter's an addict now.
>More than that, this feeling Pete has, that something is not quite right or recognizable about his life, that it’s somehow all a dream and he’s being swept along, trapped in a kind of hopeless cycle, that’s what’s truly terrifying.
He's hallucinated everything including Sins Past and One More Day
Carter Walker
Omd is not being retconed
Mason Brown
Harry was pretty torn up about everything he was doing despite continuing to do it. I find it hard to believe he would't repent for any of it.