What the fuck happened with pinecest

never in my life have i seen a fandom be completely dominated with incest shipping-- usually in my experience proships are kind of hidden in their own little nook but it felt like pinecest was everywhere in 2013

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it was just fanart back then

did alex ever condemn that fanart? i know he mentioned it before on his twitter but he never seemed to involved in "policing" the content that people made

doublepines was the best ship artist around and it spread like wildfire across tumblr from there. Then tumblr died, the show died, and DP disappeared into the nether.

I miss doublepines so so much, my coming of age years were spent obsessing over her pinecest comics. she kind of popularized the ship, yeah?
she's not dead though, btw, she's still active on her main and art tumblr

come to the Frozen threads

you mean elsanna right? i used to love that ship when i got into frozen again after the sequels release.

There was a broad reexamination of incest in that era, you also saw it at the same time with the wild popularity of Elsanna. Unfortunately in the ensuing time with the rise of these 'anti-shipper' moral police incest pairings have been on the defensive again. Doublepines in particular was the subject of an unrelenting crusade.

her art hasn't been updated in a while and her main got blasted, either intentionally or by hacks

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feels like there's a pendulum swing with this kind of stuff, although i'm not really sure if fandom culture is ever going to be able to recover from "purity teens" who pretty much run these fandoms now.
doublepines also made the mistake of showing her identity while also churning out incest porn-- rookie mistake if you ask me

shit really? i just checked bleventeeen and it seemed like she had been active pretty recently

never watched ben10, have you?

nope, didn't even know it had an active fandom

Is she cute?

i think so, yeah. she's in her late twenties now if i had to guess, probably like 24 when she drew that in 2016

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The problem was incest is technically allowed under the “two adults who mutually consent” clause and people were trying to alleviate their disgust with social activism.

not sure if alleviate would be the right term-- it was more of a justification for threatening artists for something that made them, personally uncomfortable. even in art where they aren't mutually consenting, or aren't adults, at the end of the day it's pixels on a screen. People took it way too seriously--doublepines is an example of that.

Back in my day we'd just take it on homosexuals for corrupting youth, but now all our anger got channeled into incestfags and pedophiles.

The characters are based on real people so it's even more appealing.

and now it's the entire fandom in 2020 given there's nothing left to discuss about the show

Where does she post these days?

And I got the impression she intentionally erased her own tumblr(s). Most artists have a tendency to do that, from what I've seen.

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some of her old art is archived on her art tumblr, limey-art, but i honestly don't think she posts her art that much anymore. Her main, bleventeeen, is still active though. She just posted this morning.

also, as far as her old blogs go, they've been locked with a password. she might unarchive them one day but honestly i'm feeling like she's trying to put her pinecest says behind her unfortunately

i'm totally here for it, maybe now that the fandom has died down there will be less death-threats directed at pinecest shippers

I looked up bleventeeen on Tumblr and to my shock there was only one callout post made about her and most of the replies were essentially telling OP to fuck off. You love to see it.

>i seen a fandom be completely dominated with incest shipping
>proships are kind of hidden in their own little nook

That's the thing. The whole pushback, while existent, was not as intense as it is now. Generally, things have become far more regressive than it used to be. People would ship characters that had good or interesting dynamics, even on Tumblr. Remember, one of Life With Derek's biggest ships on Tumblr was between the brother and sister main characters. It's not really like that anymore.

Pinecest was popular because the characters genuinely loved each other (in Hirsch's own words), and if you're a shipper, you look for that shit.

So, a mix of time and the character dynamics. You probably won't see a comparable ship anytime soon.

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dipper didnt have a love interest unil relatively late in the show with pacifica. so for a thirsty shipper the options were mabel, wendy or bill cipher. wendy is unattractive to female shipper as she is too old for him and mainly characterised as a prize in s1. if gideon was hotter, or dipper had his own friend group, the incest would probably have been less omnipresent.

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Unironically a creative work of passion that was shunned for its topic. The raw level of emotion in every piece, god I love when artists have connection to the porn they draw. The only other place you see it so blatantly is the homestuck /aco/ general. The art has real attachment to it somehow.

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>god I love when artists have connection to the porn they draw.
The emotion can be the best part. That's why well written lewd fics are god tier

The death knell for incest on tumblr was that whole 'inappropriate content' policy change they did a few years ago, it led to incest art or shipping blogs getting outright banned.

i think that's a really interesting take. it was incest not just for the sake of incest, but because it made sense in the context of the content that people made. there really was so much emotion in the pinecest community, in fanart and fanfic. i feel like thats why the ship had so much appeal and got as popular as it did. like.... in other fandoms it feels like there's a huge taboo on incest, and people get into huge trouble for even mentioning it, but in gravity falls it was literally one of the most popular ships. although, maybe the ship was just a product of its time, with the whole "sinful ships" tumblr thing in 2012-2016

honestly you're probably right, it something is going to appeal to a teenage audience, there has to be some kind of romantic aspect. process of elimination, the only two characters that were interesting enough to draw a crowd were billdip and pinecest.

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teens on the internet always need some kind of cause to root and shame other people for. i guess today that thing is problematic shipping. maybe it'll swing around in a few years

the "proshippers" are finally winning