Villain is evil because...he's evil

By holy kek. He is more of a clown than Joker.

Power corrupts, and he had unchecked power for years. It isn't super difficult to grasp.

The question was answered soundly, so the thread devolved into political twaddle.
Heh.

Wasn't it because of how Gargunza programmed her? To be more matronly and accepting while the men are domineering

youtube.com/watch?v=DUlj48Rvp1c
Fuck Thatcher

>OH MAGGIE I WANT YOUR STINKY COOTER PLEASE TRICKLE DOWN ON ME BABY
what did you mean by this?

I like me some camp myself, but Moore insisting "Batman is only for children and can only ever BE for children, comic readers need to grow up and read ADULT works" when he engaged in the same behavior he's accusing the entire industry of doing (taking their childhood heroes and making them DARK and EDGY and MATURE to disguise their childishness) constantly since he left the "mainstream" industry with shit like League of Extraordinary Gentleman and that lesbo erotica comic he made with Alice and Mary from Peter Pan scissoring or w/e just reeks of projection. And his latest blanket cries of "comics are for children only, there's no such thing as a really mature comic, it's all kiddy shit and I was wrong to try and make it anything else!" reeks of sour grapes (yeah, Asterios Polyp, that's some real kiddy shit there!)
Not to mention him trying to draw some spurious, schizo-tier link between capeshit films, Trump, and Brexit, where he calls Trump a nazi (I personally think he's a wannabe strongman, but come on- the Nazis believed some really specific shit that Trump doesn't approach with a 50-yar pole).

Evil because Evil are the most popular villains

Superhero comics are kiddie shit, not the medium as a whole. It's an art form and can be used in a number of ways, some mature and others not. The worldview that allows for superheroes to exist is, at its core, somewhat infantile. Problems are solved by all powerful figures of authority, and not by people who put in the work to fix them. Its simplified and condensed down to a childlike way of comfortably understanding the world which, more often than not, lacks nuance. That said, I like superhero comics because they're weird and occasionally you see some really cool shit. But they aren't stories that usually leave a lasting impression in the same way that a more thoughtful piece of literature might. They're a quickly produced product. Pulp that is best enjoyed as pulp. Not a good or bad thing, but don't be deluded about what it is.

>Fuck Thatcher
Not even with a stolen dick.

Hwta are her crimes anyway?

I won't really argue with that, but Moore legitimately throws the entire medium into the same pile in his most recent reviews. The specific comic I mentioned is a nuanced graphic novel about the nature of love and attraction, but Moore's sweeping broad-handed dismissal of graphic novels would prevent its serious consideration. Once again- I firmly believe that this is Moore being bitter that HE never achieved the status his considerable ego demanded when he went indie mixed with his need to constantly be against "the Man" clashing with his status AS "the Man" in comics- if he's "the Man", he must be against himself.

The "infantile" worldview that allows for superheroes, I will point out, is also the worldview that dominates the Classics and the major texts of several major religions, including the religions Moore likes to claim membership in, which adds additional layers of irony to his posturing. I would say that it's just as infantile (if not more so) to be extremely preoccupied with seeming "mature" all the time, especially if this involves confusing the complicated for the meaningful, cynicism for realism, and the offensive for the avant-garde.

Was it? I only remember Gargunza drooling over her rapeable cunny body mostly, hell he even programmed her into his magical realm. Of all the supers she should be the most fucked in the head mentally.

t. Moore. I don't even like Thatcher, I just don't literally draw a posthuman god BTFOing her and call it high art.

Kek

I generally disregard Moore's opinions. He's egotistical and a hypocrite.

The issue Moore himself double standards the piss out of his statements with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen alone

>wannabe strongman
I've always seen him as carnie huckster myself, trying to sell himself as a populist who worked his way up. I certainly feel he's been the better pick than both Hillary and Biden. At least with Trump he can't help but scream what he is out in the open at all times, instead of creeping you out with that "Let's Pokemon Go to the polls!" crap.

Trump is absolutely better than Hillary and Biden, but that's not hard. He has, however, continued every one of the wars including the genocide in Yemen, and increased the debt by a lot

and won't end the war on drugs, created a new branch of military. Sucks Isreali cock. Just an authoritarian shithead like the rest of them.

So he should have made it a fictional politician as not to offend you?
>inb4 I'm n-not offended

Why should we be offended, Satan? It’s not like any of us are British and/or lived in that time in Britain.

I got into Moore's work a lot later than I got into Gaiman's and Pratchett's. Maybe that's why what struck me about Moore is-he comes across as a lot less self-aware and able to take a joke. What you said about the contradiction between being The Man and being against The Man-Prachett pre-empted that shit a long time ago when Vetinari talked about how Sam Vimes is basically in the same boat and walking that tightrope is practically zen. Gaiman? Reading his stuff with gods and shit in it, really gave a sense of understanding how ridiculous the premise seems to the man on the street.

I've noticed Moore's writing seems to operate on the premise that if everyone, literally EVERYONE, was allowed to do what they wanted at all time with no organization or higher form of governance, if every single taboo was broken at once, the world would magically turn into a transcendent utopia overnight. It happened at the end of Promethea (he even drew Promethea talking to you, the reader!), it happened at the end of the FIRST Miracleman run-and it took Gaiman coming in to show why maybe this mentally imbalanced overman might not necessarily be the best leader, even if he's not a monster through and through. Honestly, main reason I'd vote for Trump if I could is because my own country's leader is a fucking monster with an even shorter fuse than him. Literally couldn't take a picture with Winnie the Pooh where I live, kek

No argument here, he's a bread and circuses man and the fact the Dems couldn't muster anyone better than fucking BIDEN to run up against him after seeing how well Hillary did reflects fucking badly on the party.

He's a grownass man, he can shittalk whoever he likes off the clock. I just find it cringe whenever funny pictures artists in general that draw men in tights think they have something meaningful to say about current politics in general. Looking at you Ennis

Then how can you similarly claim to know she wasn't worthy of the ire?

Don't know, don't care and I could ask you where Maggie touched your dad while he ws working in the coal mines.

I don't speak for that user but randomly inserting the politician you hate the most into your comic book just to shit on them with your original characters is retarded regardless of the validity of the action. Imagine if Moore has done the same to any politican elected in the last couple of years. At least the fuckers who write Trump/Pence slashfics are upfront about what you're getting and don't charge you for it.

I think it was to show a contrast. Unlike the Miraclemen, Miraclewoman and Young Nastyman were subjected to Gargunza’s unrestricted experimentation. While Young Nastyman became an absolute monster, Miraclewoman eventually went on to a goddess for the new age. Plus, Miraclewoman learned the truth of their origins earlier than the rest of them, allowing her to accept her power while “retaining” her humanity, unlike Kid Miracleman.

You sound fucking butthurt as hell dude. lmao

People have literally been shitting on politicians they dislike in their works since the start of art, you fucking schizo. Stop pretending like you're so far above everyone else

To be fair, he's released more drug "offenders" than any President in recent memory.

But that's the part I don't get, there was NOTHING in Gargunza's experiments intended to produce anything higher than getting his kicks off. The whole idea of anything positive coming from this fuckup is genuinely more immersion breaking to me than the very premise of superhumans in the story. It would be like if you locked some children in a lightless basement and of the two you tortured one had a psychotic break (expected) and the other turned into a genius wunderkind diplomat (that's not how that works. That's not how anything works).

There has to be a narratively coherent reason for a contrast here, and I just didn't find one in my reading. Even if Miraclewoman learned the truth of their origins earlier she still canonically spent much of her life apparently in hiding as a normal woman, how do you go from that to busting out an appeal that solves an interstellar conflict between two species you've had limited contact with and basically handhold the other poor bastard through the process?

I'm sure there's some artsy reason I'm missing, just like how seeing Miracleman's daughter go down into the basement to thank Gargunza's clone for making her made my skin crawl when I was fairly certain it was meant to be somehow heartwarming despite involving an inhuman intelligence utterly detached from humanity, and also Gargunza. But I just don't see it.

Just realized Miracleman had rape in it too. Jeez, what is up with Moore and rape?

>come in for a mircaleman thread
>it's just butthurt Zig Forumsfags whining about Trump and being offended over and over

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