ITT: Characters that didn't deserve to be redeemed, and characters that DID deserve to be redeemed

ITT: Characters that didn't deserve to be redeemed, and characters that DID deserve to be redeemed.

Gideon and Azula did NOT deserve to be redeemed.

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I mean did he really get redeemed? All it did was show he used to be a stupid kid

Nick Wilde

>Bad people aren't allowed to change because then I can't have my revenge when I shoot up my school!
That's you OP.

People change user, that's not necessarily redemption that's just a fact of life

Gideon seemed to mellow out as an adult at least.

>implying anons wouldn't throw a child under the bus for perceived slights to their emotions
>implying most people here don't operate on the "people can't change" mentality

He had to gain the trust of the Hopps family, probably for a while, so yes.

>because then I can't have my revenge when I shoot up my school
But that's a white thing.

>Implying OP isn't white

>implying most people here don't operate on the "people can't change" mentality
People don't change. That's why I like Gideon, he's the fantasy of the self-aware individual striving to improve themselves and change for the better.

gideon was a mean 6 year old
azula was a genocidal conqueror

>childhood bullies can NEVER be redeemed, they were ALWAYS monsters
woah settle down there Dobson, you're fit to burst

Are you equating a regular bully with a psychotic killer?

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People do change, and kids are too stupid to have self-awareness.
t.autismo that learned to be a normal human being with age

...And here's why that's a good thing.

He's not "a childhood bully" you fucking idiots, he's a goddamn predator attacking prey. You see that shot in OPs image? That's not some kid picking on another kid, Gideon had killer fucking instincts in him, something he himself actively told Judy as he pinned her down. Had he not feared societal consequences, he would have killed Judy right then and there. He might not have been a genocidal murderer like Azula but don't pretend like he was just "kind of a dick".

I am, in fact, not white. That doesn't really matter for the thread though.

Gideon was written to be pretty evil for a 6 year old. If anyone other than Judy had been attacked and had their face dug into the dirt and told "I want you to remember this moment the next time you ever try to amount to anything", that would leave lifelong psychological scars. There are definitely people in the Zootopia world that didn't accept Gideon's apology.

Not about deserve

Azula wasn't redeemed. I haven't read comics shit but they don't count.

Wait...this isn't the Gravity Falls thread

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I haven't read the comics either, but I heard Azula travels with Zuko to find their mom.

He’s a child, user. I know it’s nice to think you could still hold your childhood bullies to account for something they did back when they were nonsapient, but that’s just not the case.
If you’re exactly the same person now as you were when you were six, you’ve fucked up majorly as a human

Her body count is still 0, you fucking morons.

But I didn't have childhood bullies.

Reminder that we are all sinners but there is still a way for us all to find redemption.

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Nick Wilde was always a good person, he wasn't redeemed, just got given a chance to be the person he always was

>comparing a dickish little kid to a psycho villain
You're a genius, OP.

Sup

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Thanks user

You're the worst person in this thread.

Until you arrived.

Reality is knocking

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>Had he not feared societal consequences
Had I not feared societal and parental consequences, I would've killed my little brother as a child. Kids are mean and kids are vicious, and cool down when they develop social awareness as teenagers. It's funny considering the fictional character you're demonising managed to grow up more than you did.

There is, but it's not the way you think.

You win this round banana's!

user that says more about you than it does children as a whole.

>I was as fucking autistic as a kid as I am right now
>No, I wasn’t bullied

So either you’re lying, or you were Gideon and are projecting so hard that you could be used for PowerPoint presentations on childhood symptoms of psychopathy

Why are they so perfect together bros

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Children are evil, vicious little shits only kept in line by the threat of punishment or the promise of reward. They stay that way until their brains mature, and the ones that don’t wind up in prison

>Had I not feared societal and parental consequences, I would've killed my little brother as a child.
What

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I can recount all sorts of stories of kids I knew being awful when noone's around to stop them, including myself. Children are selfish, and come to regret it later. That's just a normal part of life, user.