Were bullies really such a problem in the 90s and earlier that every show seemed to depict them in some way...

Were bullies really such a problem in the 90s and earlier that every show seemed to depict them in some way? I never saw any violence at any school I've attended

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>I never saw any violence at any school I've attended
Not even a single fight?

During my school days I saw generic bullies who'd shove scrawny kids into walls or on the ground for fun around 5th-7th grade and then 8th grade and beyond it was just fist fights every over month or so.

Lucky motherfucker, all I ever got to see were lame "fights" between girls.

kids bullying each other is as natural as it gets. you were just lucky (or smart) enough not to bring it on yourself

The over the top "bully" character is fiction. I remember as a kid thinking that Beverly Cleary and similar got it a bit more right with who was being a bully and who was being a target swapping out constantly.

Everyone would swarm a target like piranha.

Obviously media is going to play it up, but it's doubtful most places would get to the degree you'll seen in something like the Simpsons.
Unless it's a really bad school, but that's a whole different story.
And I doubt it's ever a case of "the singular bully/squad" and more "kids don't like other kids in particular and start shit"

Bullying was ALWAYS a problem, but the 80s and 90s saw the dawn of PSA morality not just limited to stuff like Seasme Street and Mr. Rogers but joining hand in hand with cartoons with Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids (ironically) being a precursor. Sure you had basic, useful advice like don't do drugs/safety tips to not set yourself on fire, et. all, but bullying was always the one subject cartoons from these eras typically got wrong despite having a plethora of examples and advice.

I really could not abide that shit, especially the "just walk away" type of message to ignore the people tormenting you, because, surprise surprise, they'd just follow you and trip you or resume hitting you anyway.

Its common in schools littered with several specific demographic.

As someone that was in elementary and Middle school in the 80s and 90s, yes.

Zero Tolerance policies actually helped them. As long as they weren't caught in the act. Then it was open season for them. As you got in just as much trouble for standing your ground and dealing with them your self.

even if it wasn’t actually a problem, the bully archetype is a fun and simple trope that writers can easily exploit so that’s probably why they always show up

Speaking as someone who moved around to four different elementary schools(then went to a school my parent worked at, twice, then went to the school I lived in the district off, then we moved), "bulling" as a problem all comes down to the school culture and administration.

The first school I went to was a "poor" neighborhood, but all the kids where nice enough. Some roughhousing, class clowning but nothing like a bully. Teachers where invested and enthusiastic.

Second school was in a more affluent but everyone got along and nobody was picked on. Same with the third, even though it was more working class. Both had very caring teachers.

Fourth school was more affluent than two and three (and I was going into Grade 6 at the time) so I was astonished that cartoonist bullies like the the ones in OP's pic where actually real kids. When they started trying lines like "Your such a pussy, gonna cry, gonna punch me" I almost wanted to laugh at how cliche it was, but there you go. Went to the Principle, they didn't really care. Teachers didn't really care.

Three years of that shit, then High School was a breez in comparison, but that's a whole different world.

Yeah, you're onto something. If the teachers actually bother to give a rat's ass about anything you probably won't see any bullying when they're in the room or even in the peripheral, but once you get into a setting where the teachers are inured to this kind of crap, you'd be surprised by what bullies can get away with.

Probably in burger school. I was never really bullied like THAT in school in my country.

it's weird to think there was a time where children assaulting, harrasing and even mugging eachother was seen as a funny thing to represent in a cartoon

Decrease in bullying coincides with rise in autism

I remember hearing that they actually made a documentary about bullying and the high school I went to was front and center of it
That said, I don't ever remember hearing about or being subjected to swirlies or wedgies or shit like that, just sucker punches, fist fights and general rumor mill faggotry.

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Honestly, yea. I think part of it was to make fun of how stupid bullying was and to clown on the bullies. But yea, when they're straight up bullies and that itself is suppose to be funny, that's kinda sadistic

Bullying has obviously existed throughout the ages but pretty much every depiction of American schools in media is pure fiction, based on tropes that were manufactured in the 50s/60s. The Simpsons is in many ways a riff of sitcoms.

There's a ton of fucked up shit that's still depicted as funny, like prison rape.

>I never saw any violence at any school I've attended
never been to a large public school

Most bullying is subconscious feelings of gay lust.

Absolutely. My middle and high school were just like on TV, elementary school less so.

I think the only time i've been bullied was when some kid in middleschool called me fat and said that when I go home I probably eat a lot while watching Cartoon Network.
I don't know why I took offense to that when he was completely right

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what are we considering large?

I went to a public school of several thousand kids, and I don't recall any fighting. I think it depends more on location, inner city schools have shit like metal detectors in the entrances.

Bullying was mostly public shaming when I grew up in the 90s.
Most 'fights' were just friends rough housing too much or taking a joke too far.
Shit like getting stuck in lockers and getting waterboarded in a toilet just seemed like fiction.

I went to a ghetto school for the first half of my education. Constant fighting, rock chucking, general hooliganism. Second half went to a much nicer school in a much nicer part of town. Only exciting fight to occur was when a tranny threw a trash can because it escaped its yard wrangler.

ikr I really hated it when itchy and scratchy depicted literal fucking murder and torture and hitler and vore
i just don't understand people who can laugh

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Yeah, further evidence to what said, one time at the fourth school a kid snapped a rubber band at my face and I said "What the hell, man?". My teacher saw the incident right in front of her and punished BOTH of us with after school detention. Him for body contact and me for swearing.

Aside from the anecdotes in this thread, you have to remember adults, the creators of these shows, are almost always out of touch with the actual culture of the school children they depict. Any archetypes about cliques and bullies could still be applicable, of course, but their inclusion in these shows probably stemmed more from their own experiences a generation before than any modern knowledge of what was going on.

yeah, as a child... itchy and scratchy gave off really dark, dark vibes.
felt like evil came from the tv screen when that segment was on.
but i was 4. but still. hmm.

Damn, Zig Forums really is full of pussies. And i thought i was sensitive when i was a kid.