It sounds obvious for most people who know art and design...

It sounds obvious for most people who know art and design, but the fundamentals of realism is needed in order to draw cartoons. Because without the fundamental knowledge of reality, you cannot create exaggerations or simplifications of real life.

Tl;dr you must learn some firm of realism in order to draw cartoons. You cannot skip this.

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No you don't. You just need to take a picture of some random bullshit, pass the class, and then get your relatives to recommend you for a job to their friends who work in televison.

That's for getting a good gig, not for skill.

Who needs skill when you have connections?

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How the fuck do you get connections?

You took the leap from "Draw cartoons" to "draw cartoons for money" way too quick there, friendo

at education connection

You don't. I do.

Realism is absolutely necessary for animation but for comics I think you can get by with little skill since bad art can be carried with writing. You can skim over the art and dart between speech bubbles, but for animation you're forced to see it at the animation's pace so the artistry needs to be goodish.

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Be an executive's kid.

Be born into extraordinary wealth, like Sugar, IJQ, Hirsch, Nefcy, etc. and then lie like crazy about how oppressed you've been your entire life.

Hah! What loser draws for free? Are you stupid?

Would you guys rather read a comic with bad art but good writing, or good art but bad writing?

Have people who already have connections.

Too many artists can't even do fundamentals. They render well or have a 'pretty art style' so the average normie just decides it's great. They then get tons of attention on social media and/or land gigs, and that leads their art to stagnate more.
I'm not a 'normies can't understand art' kind of person but I think that non-art people mindlessly clicking 'like' on a piece of art because the digitally rendered lighting looks good even though the character's neck looks snapped in half is probably at least partially responsible for the decline in quality. Art is now heavily involved in social media. Doesn't matter if it looks good. Matters that you get likes.

I like how we're not even considering the possibility of something having good art and good writing. Sad state of affairs these days. Anyway, I'm going to go take a shit.

Gee fucking whiz, thanks captain obvious

That's why the so called "Calarts style" sucks.

Writing easily matters most. I would only stick with a poorly written but great looking comic if it was by one of my top 5 favorite artists.

Is this your first time encountering a hypothetical question?

Don't giver me no lip or I will make you lick my asshole clean.

This is why Eurocucks shit all over Americans when it comes to making comics and cartoons. Americans are only focused on how fast they can make money off of their shitty scribbles, it's not about the craft or making something with lasting value.

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no

the image you're using is making the exact opposite argument. cartooning is the streamlining of realism to represent a broad message that will reach more people since it stops representing an individual.

cartoons don't need realism. nobody looks like Dee Dee but everybody can see themselves in her.

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I certainly can see myself in her.

No, I used that image as a topic starter. The point I was making was that you need to know realism to draw cartoons. Knowing fundamentals before you can break them was the intent.

And yes, you are right about what the image represents. Yet ironically, realism gets more respect among the masses than animated.

No you don't.
Knowing realism helps in developing new styles on the fly, but it's not needed AT ALL.
The most important thing in cartoons/comics is: Consistency.
It doesn't matter if you only draw stick figures, if they all look the same from page to page/frame to frame. Which is why stuff like the original One Punch Man was able to hit off(in japan, long before the manga/anime), because despite his shitty style, it was consistent.

now you're using "realism" as an alternative to animation. it's not. the most successful blockbusters and lasting pop culture entities are animated family cartoons like Mickey Mouse and SpongeBob. also "respect" is largely useless if not used for a goal in mind aka social activism.

on another topic, nobody is gonna respect you for being an unambitious complacent loser, making connections and having credentials is how you get a job.

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Believability over realism.

based

I was referring to this thread in a way regarding how abstract characters aren't as respected as live action.

Good art but bad writing easily, 90% of comics are both written and drawn like shit either way