Is DC hoping to tape into the black homeless women demographic with this character? Do you see it paying off for them?
Is DC hoping to tape into the black homeless women demographic with this character? Do you see it paying off for them?
*tap into
Look, introducing young characters in an attempt to appeal to a younger demographic is a very long standing comics trend. Remember Night Thrasher?
Isn't this the new girl from the CW show? Why the fuck is she in the comics already?
I've no idea who any of these people are.
Night Thrasher was bearable and at the time he made a good point. It was a good idea to have a new generation working in a team, independent of the Avengers, getting good at their schtick and handling the jobs that the Avengers were too busy to handle. He put in the training and had the resources so that when he told the Avengers "we do not require supervision, you do your thing we'll do our," sure it was a young person telling an older one to go away, but it worked.
Ryan Wilder there just seems to be a homeless woman with a chip on her shoulder.
Just find it hilarious that they're pretending to give a shit about diversity in the pages of Batgirl, with Barbara Gordon standing right there. As a disabled woman that was in a shitload of books including the JLA, Oracle was probably the most prominent "minority representation" in DC comics, and arguably the most popular disabled character in comics (Professor X got cured weekly, and fuck it, Daredevil's "blindness" is pretty much a sham, whereas Oracle couldn't use her legs and had no superpower substitution).
They tossed that in the bin, while simultaneously fucking over (1) the female Robin that had been "fridged," and (2) probably their most popular nonwhite woman.
Please, by all means, continue trying to virtue signal while including in the shot a character that proves you'll throw it all away the minute you get a whiff of money for doing something else.
I just find it odd that they're debuting Ryan in Babs' comic instead of releasing a Batwoman oneshot to make her Kate's long lost summer camp fling. And it's one thing to replace another redhead with a black woman, but who the fuck thought making her a drug addicted bag lady is in any way an inspirational or interesting? Just what are they trying to say about black people here?
Could be a fun character. Just some random crackead vagrant that squats in random places across the DC universe. The Batcave, the ice fortress, the watchtower, Darkseid's throne room etc... She'll just be in the background sitting on that box while important stuff is going on.
>but who the fuck thought making her a drug addicted bag lady is in any way an inspirational or interesting
Surviving adversity and challenges that are common occurrence in the US and then turn yourself a hero would be inspiring. Why are you dismissing it?
Probably because whenever we don't dismiss something on Zig Forums, matters have a way of spiralling horribly out of control. Or because she's a black hobo who talks grouchy to his shitty waifu.
>Why are you dismissing it?
Because it's clearly a diversity checklist flag waving piece of tokenism.
>an inspiring overcoming of adversity
Depends on the genre.
"My parents were murdered, so I trained and became a HERO" is a story about overcoming adversity that works for comics.
"I was trained to be an assassin, but I rejected that to SAVE lives instead, even though it meant leaving behind the only life I'd ever known, and my skillset isn't always ideal" - another good one.
"I was a surly bum, now I'm a hero" - not great.
>"I was a surly bum, now I'm a hero" - not great.
Worked for a slutty white girl.
Steph was poor white trash, but she wasn't a bum. Also it's a perfectly valid point that "angry homeless person" isn't a good introduction to the character considering that the person she's angry at is said to be doing community outreach on the exact same page and the politician she's complaining about isn't even a city official. At no point are we shown her dealing with any real issues (she's complaining about the closing of a shelter she doesn't even utilize), the dialogue implies that she's not putting in the effort to stop being homeless, and for a character who is being introduced because she's an OC for the Batwoman tv show there isn't any connection to that at all.
Probably because Duke and Naomi didn't catch on and DC, for some reason, seems fucking desperate to have a break-out nigger character, of any kind, no matter what it is.
Only normies don't know who Nova is
African Nightwing was cool. Should've written more stories with him. And not named him after Batman's plane.
Was that the guy they completely emasculated in the Batgirl TV show?
Steph wasn't "I was a bum, then I became a hero."
Steph's schtick was that she was the daughter of a (third-rate) supervillain.
That makes for a better "comic book superhero" story than "I was a bum, then I became a hero."
Real life is diverse, if you hadn't noticed.
>I like tropes and cliches, not when disfranchised people rise up and better themselves and help others
Talking like a truly privileged middle class snob.
Well now they can use Static again so hopefully this shit stops
And real black people aren't paper dolls for white landwhale scriptwriters.
Barbara Gordon is a white woman with red hair. This displeases them for some reason. Why do they hate gingers, bros?
Has there ever been a Hobo Superhero before this point? Closest I can think of was that one /tg/ quest about a homeless mutant, and he was more between an Anti-Hero and a Howard the Duck dramedy character.
They literally cancelled the series with this issue.
>Projecting so hard you can't even form an argument anymore
Sad. So many cases.
CW synergy
Spawn. D-Man. Namor was a hobo at one point. John Constantine was a hobo for a minute. Read some comics, why don't you
The Maxx.