>entire impetus of season 4 is that the Earth monarchy is incompetent and their mismanagement of the kingdom's security allowed a strongman dictator to fill the power vacuum
>demonstrate the heir is a pampered diletante disengaged from reality
>show that for all Kuvira's faults, she has at least eliminated brigandry throughout the land
>when it comes time to evacuate Republic city, Prince Wu effortlessly rallies the citizens to evacuate, and improvised further rescue efforts when the evacuation becomes complicated, proving his divine right to lead
>finale still shows him abdicating his throne in favor of handing control over to the citizens, the same dipshits who let Kuvira starve them and turn their kingdom into s police state
Fuck LoK
Entire impetus of season 4 is that the Earth monarchy is incompetent and their mismanagement of the kingdom's security...
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You see the message is that populism is good but its unacceptable to let a woman lead
Alternatively that true gentlemen will always try communism again; Regardless of how closely they were exposed to its horrors.
>the same dipshits who let Kuvira starve them and turn their kingdom into s police state
what the fuck were they suppose to do, revolt against Kuvira? she'd literally rather vaporize her husband than not finish her conquest. it's not really a stretch for them to adopt Republic City practices if nothing else to make the people happy--it'd be pretty stupid if after like 3 seasons of having a hard stance on monarchy, especially B4, if it just ended with royalty taking the throne again even if a sudden democratic bandaid feels kiddie.
>she'd literally rather vaporize her husband than not finish her conquest
she wasn't born with a death ray attached to her arm, the support of earth retards is what led her to that point
Considering how many loyal soldiers Kuvira had not to mention how many civilians would probably been grateful to her for ending banditry I'm surprised they didn't just vote her back into power when pushed for democracy.
she was doing genuine good work cleaning up the country, no one had any clue what Kuvira's ambitions truly were until the coronation. we see a village leader want to reject Kuvira but it's made pretty clear they didn't have any options
>Governor: What happened? Where's all the food?
>Opal: We were attacked in mid-air. We lost everything.
>Kai: It might be time to make a tough call. [Withdraws Kuvira's contract from his suit and hands it to the governor.]
>The Governor looks over his people, who all look miserable. Seeing no other option, he takes the contract and signs it, handing it back to Kai.
>Governor: Here. Tell Kuvira to save my people.
>Kai: For what it's worth, I think you made the right decision.
>Governor: [Saddened.] Did I ever really have a choice?
Ruins of the Empire actually has Wu postpone the transition to democracy
The earth kingdom is nominally based on china, and something interesting about China and it's people us they historically will accept the most brutal and despotic leaders (and love them) because what generally happens when there isn't one of those guys is so very much worse.
We are talking about a group of people who consider cannibalizing thousands of their own people a resounding victory.
Kuvera was positively benign.
>proving his divine right to lead
top kek
>I'm the ruler
Why?
>My dad was the ruler
So?
Monarchists are fucking stupid.
>We are talking about a group of people who consider cannibalizing thousands of their own people a resounding victory.
You see I try to get more into Chinese history then this shit pops up
Cao Cao still my boi
>unacceptable to let a woman lead
Based
The more disturbing implication is that the Republic City Council was planning to use him as a puppet ruler. They knew damn well he was incompetent, but assured Korra "their people" would be making the actual decisions. Now that it's a Democracy, you know all of the election candidates are going to be Republic City plants.
In theory the heir and to a less extent the spare are thoroughly groomed for the position
It usually works if you put the effort in
Prince Albert was training Eddy 7 for the throne from the word go and he turned out to be a highly effective diplomat and modernizer dispute being a fat git
Also no Monarchy was truly absolute, ask Edward II.
Even China had a concept of the Mandate of Heaven that Emperor could lose and have to be replaced
Reminder that literally cannibalising twenty thousand soldiers of the opposing force, despite horrendous losses to your own side, was considered a strategic victory. And that's just one of many atrocities that occurred.
China's history is fucking crazy.
>opposing force
Well that's how it started
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Korra had a lot of problems, but it didnt shy away from showung how corrupt and greedy people could get when you have them power.
No, abducting a crazy scientist to make a vaporizing laser put a vaporizing laser on her arm.
>turn their kingdom into a police state
The Earth Kingdom was a declining police state since ATLA. The only difference is that Kuvira was an expansionist while the Dai Li intended on maintaining the hierarchal status quo of puppeting the Earth King
And then in the comic they get rid of Democracy and bring back the monarchy.
Still facepalming that Suyin was depicted as being in the right for living all pampered and safe in her little Objectivist island, looking out at the pillaging warlords tearing the Earth Kingdom apart and going "That's so sad. Li Xiao play Despacito."
Kuvira who figured maybe she should go help? Oh, she's a fascist now.
the show very clearly was painting Suyin in the wrong at multiple points in the season, just compared to Kuvira wanting to be Queen Bitch of the world she is smallfry
China still has that concept, but they try to pretend it doesn't exist whenever it would threaten their reign.
>It depicted Suyin as wrong
No, it really didn't. Hell, it ended with her being the one to lead Kuvira off in chains, a pretty blatant "the bad guy is now in the hands of a good guy" moment.
>S3 shows Suyin is against the Earth Kingdom's monarchy
>S4 she suddenly strongly supports it when the new ruler is an incompetent man-child who outright states he's just going to leave the work to his "advisors"
Suyin is legitimately the most well written villain in LoK. Her scheme makes sense every step of the way, and involves ingratiating herself to the most politically powerful people in the world while setting up scapegoats and puppets to manipulate.
The other LoK villains are fucking retards in comparison, their plans are more often doomed to fail by design rather than intervention, if they don't fuck them up themselves.
>proving his divine right to lead
Monarchists are mentally ill. I hope you get Zaheer'd.
the show very explicitly shined a spotlight on her somewhat hypocritical nature with Kuvira commenting how she always talks about wanting to change the country for the better but when given the opportunity, refused. when Suyin attacked Kuvira during the Battle for Zaofu the show took a very hard stance on her behaviour
>Jinora: Korra, you have to go stop Su before she does something terrible.
...
>Opal: Korra, you can't let Kuvira get away with this! We have to go break out Mom and my brothers!
>Jinora: [Irked by Opal's aggressive stance.] You swore an oath of non-aggression when you became an airbender. [Narrows her eyes; sternly.] You can't just attack Kuvira!
>Opal: I don't care about the oath! I have to save my family!
>Korra: [Putting a hand on Opal's shoulder.] No, Jinora is right. Your mom attacked the camp. Kuvira was just defending herself.
Korra specifically told her she wanted to avoid fighting and was angry with Suyin for going ahead with her own plan. I think people have the understanding that because Kuvira was portrayed as villainous that means Suyin must be 100% pure good and all these negative aspects of her that were very clearly displayed by the show
>We are tired of being treated like exotic birds in your cage.
were, what, accidental and we're just so much smarter than the writers for seeing it. In the end Suyin was proven wrong: she didn't think Kuvira could be stopped except with violence
>Go into the Avatar State and demolish her entire army. Remove Kuvira from power once and for all! ... Kuvira doesn't listen to reason.
but Korra ended up stopping Kuvira by just sitting down and talking with her.
user, you are giving the writers far too much credit for this mess of a thing if you think they were going for "Suyin has been shown to be a bad person" at the end.
The bitch snapped up the best benders in the kingdom and lived in a self-sustained island mini-kingdom where they could use their basically-magic to speed through shit like farming, and she shrugged and went "not my problem" when the rest of the very large kingdom fell into chaos with roving bandit warlords. At no point does the show address just how fucked up that was, nor how ridiculous it was for her to go "no you need to stay here and do nothing" to Kuvira, who we knew was an orphan who'd lost her parents to something vague but bad out in the Earth Kingdom.
Suyin was a spoiled villain, and the closest we got to her being portrayed as bad was a limp-wristed acknowledgement that maybe she was too aggressive in her heroism.
>At no point does the show address just how fucked up that was
this is LITERALLY A LINE IN THE SHOW
>Oh? So now you're taking an interest in world affairs? A little late, isn't it? When the queen fell, and everyone was asking you to help keep the Earth Kingdom from falling apart, all you wanted to do was hide in Zaofu, and let others deal with the consequences.
it's very obvious the show was intentionally giving Suyin negative traits, they even have fucking Jinora aka the Golden Girl of the show mouth her off. it's pretty obvious Suyin's advice to Korra about how they should deal with Kuvira was in juxtaposition to how Korra actually dealt with her. it's just the show didn't treat her like some Super Mega Satan with zero redeeming qualities: just like Kuvira, you CAN understand her thought process.
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this is a really good write up on her character
I think the crux of this is that Korra didn't attempt to stop Suyin or warn Kuvira. Negotiating this ceasefire was Korra's first act as Avatar after recuperating, and she does nothing as Suyin shits all over it, proving that her word is useless and that she can't be trusted to bind/honor agreements (though the loss of the past lives already did that).
>this is LITERALLY A LINE IN THE SHOW
That is LITERALLY A LINE FROM THE VILLAIN.
Meanwhile Suyin's reply was that Kuvira was being unfair.
You're giving the writers far too much credit. Kuvira was led off in chains, Suyin never got a chewing out for her inaction from the good guys. Shit, she got to be the one to cart off Kuvira in chains.