Frozen II

So the Northuldra aren't magic users... but they're magic users. Is there really any meaningful distinction between using magic and being gifted by spirits with magic? Are they a worse addition than the trolls?

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Also the prequel novel Dangerous Secrets dropped today. The parents are dumb and try to walk into the mist wall for four years.

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Leave them alone!

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The answer is Frozen is shit and not Zig Forums, but you just want posts to bump the thread

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There is. One has magic power they can yield. The other has to depend on their "friends" for magic. It's like Frozen II made this distinction to not befall the same date as Pocahontas by implying native people are magic, though it still is pretty guilty of such sweeping generalizations with how much they made the Northuldra connected to nature. When will Disney learn that natives are just people and can be as destructive as anybody else? To say anybody is more or less something because of their birth is pretty damning.
>Are they a worse addition than the trolls?
Honestly hard to say. The trolls are cryptic and shouldn't be trusted, but the Northuldra are such teases when it comes to information. They both suck, though at least the Northuldra aren't obnoxious.

Here's a link to the novel if anyone wants it:

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>Frozen is shit
Agree.
>not Zig Forums
Vehemently disagree. How? As if capeshit is any better in overall quality...

>Frozenfags get a whole-ass novel while Tangled is still forgotten

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Cool, thanks.

I get the impression that the spirits' gift of magic is transactional, but what do the Northuldra give to the spirits in return? Human sacrifice?

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Lol.

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>Is there really any meaningful distinction between using magic and being gifted by spirits with magic?
There's a big difference. Every troll is capable of using magic. They don't depend on anything or anyone, since the gift is innate to each of them.
However, the Northuldra can only ASK the spirits for permission to use magic. 34 years ago, permission was freely given to the point that anyone in the forest could just snap their fingers and light a fire instantly. But not anymore.
Now that the spirits are under Elsa's control, SHE is the one they have to ask. That means an entire society's access to magic comes from her, and her alone. I guess nobody can use magic when she's asleep, or when she's gone somewhere else, like Arendelle or Ahtohallan? What if she's unavailable for days at a time? Seems like quite the downgrade.

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Thanks.
Mari did best with what she was given. Iduna does seem to accept responsibility for the mountain of lies she created, but it doesn't matter when they die soon after. Iduna is still a shit person who claims she didn't say anything because she didn't want to risk Agnarr's crown. And we did get a scene where they discover Elsa's powers as an infant. Bitch doesn't say anything then either.

Try having a good movie next time

Why would the Northuldra continue to live there? The spirits obey their white savior, not them. These same spirits tortured them for three decades. The forest might be magical,but they aren't benefitting from it anymore.

>Elsa gentrified magic

There’s definitely going to be a faction of Northuldra who want to leave. Many of them looked to be under 34 years old, so they have no idea what they’re even missing. Only the elders remember how things used to be. Finally free of the mist, I’m sure many of them are curious about Arendelle and want to travel there to see it. Elsa is going to be left alone with a dying tribe.

They used to trade Arendellian scalps for magic

Oh, great! Fresh new thread.

My last Halloween-themed story for the Helsaween event.
It's Helsa and Kristanna, but very light.

I usually post FF.net links, however that site has been a bitch for the last 2 days and not uploading any story. So, here's the AO3 address:

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Zig Forums keeps thinking it's spam, so had to upload it to pastebin...

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Well, at least she isn’t lying to herself...

>spooky campfire stories
Nice, I don't remember reading anything with this premise for Frozen before, good to see that Halloween isn't over.
And yeah, FF.net sometimes just kind of... stops functioning for days at a time, it's old and busted. I think that's why AO3 started in the first place, if I remember my internet history.

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After this brief taste of happyness, Elsa wouldn't be able to go back into isolation.
Just like Anna she can't live like this anymore.
I'm sure she wanted to tell Anna everything by the end of the day.

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What would happen if Elsa didn't show her powers there? How would the story continue?

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If she successfully got past the most stressful day of her life, I think she could get past anything. She might be able to conceal her powers all the way up until Anna and Hans got married, where her anxiety might spike again.

>Anna and Hans have a quick engagement and wedding
>Anna tragically dies on their wedding night, after tripping down four flights of stairs, and directly into a fireplace
>Soon after the funeral, Hans tries to convince Elsa that marrying him would be what Anna would have wanted so that they could be happy together
>Elsa kicks him out
>Closes the gates permanently
>Elsa sits on the throne until she eventually turns into a block of ice

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Elsa is perfect

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>Elsa sits on the throne until she eventually turns into a block of ice

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AN KARANIR THANAGOR

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I would watch the fuck out that movie to be honest.

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