He was right, you know

He destroyed the clay people because they became greedy and sinful, and then teaches the kids that humans are naturally greedy and lack empathy, and that they're expendable, stating; "We can always create more, if we need them"

Is this because of the eyepatch wolf video?

>Just want to enjoy the grapes and have a good time with frens
>the host keeps sperging out about the nature of man

That's rich considering Lucifer was so prideful he thought he could run things without God. Self important my ass.

Lucifer and Satan are different angels

He is an angel and purportedly simply a relative of Satan's by blood, but not very directly, he just shares Satan's name. Because he is not a human, he is seen as cold and does not understand certain human conceptions of morality or right and wrong, and he also is aware of elements of human hypocrisy inherent to their existence, some of which also annoy or amuse him. He destroyed the clay men in this short because they were like humans, simple greedy mortal creatures created on a whim and easily replaced.

The original short story is about a group of children who also encounter this angel in much the same sense, with him affecting their lives in strange ways because of his very detached conceptions of solutions to some of their problems, e.g. one of their relatives (can't remember who) was despondent and due to go to prison IIRC, but Satan "saved" him by driving him insane and making him delusional, thinking he was a king and as a result in constant good spirits. There are other scenes, like a witch trial and this clay kingdom scene. I'd definitely recommend reading it, even though my memory is fuzzy of the story I can tell you I thoroughly enjoyed it.

This is not entirely unusual for 80s kids movie. Also, he literally said his name was Satan.

The Mysterious Stranger is great, but word of caution to Zig Forumsmrades interested in reading it: Twain wrote several incomplete versions of this story which were stitched together and combined with writing by another author by the guy who managed Twain's estate after he died. It was presented as a single complete work and the fraud wasn't discovered until the 1960s, so many older editions have the fake version.

Look for versions titled "No. 44, the Mysterious Stranger: Being an Ancient Tale Found in a Jug and Freely Translated from the Jug" or a variant of that, which is the only version Twain himself actually finished. Make sure it's not the older fake one.

>tfw thats you

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Should I move this thread to /lit/? Technically, this could still be a Zig Forums thread because it's from a cartoon (Claymation) movie

we are not discussing the book. would you also move peter pan or moby dick threads because they are based on books? if the space is really needed for another thread it should be moved to /x/ because pretty much people are discussing the existentialism of satan I guess.

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Holy shit, this needs be on /lit/ but the 40 gorillian MCU threads are kosher amirite? Fuck this site

>would you also move peter pan or moby dick threads because they are based on books?
Hehe "dick threads."

>moby dick
>not a sperm whale

In this work, if you actually pay attention to it. The name satan is just redherring. It's really about god, and mark twain's eventual switch to atheism.

>"Hurr, humans are greedy."
I WILL PUNCH YOU AND LOOT YOUR GEAR!

I thought the point was that Satan was playing god and the show was making a case that we shouldn't let evil become a dominant force in the world.

Only if you go by "well, askchually" logic, like some fedoralord fresh from his first atheist wik dive.

One thing to add that I think is important is that when Twain wrote The Mysterious Stranger he wasn't totally working off of Chrstian theology from the start.
Twain was actually using it to illustrate some weird transcendental philosophy that he had gotten really into at the time. So the original story is weird and disconcerting because of that, and the philosophy doesn't really come across in this short, as good as it is.

IMO, Twain's most "Christian" story is "The War Prayer."

Why did the internet, a place mostly filled with irreligious people, turn on atheism with "le fedora" meme in the mid 2010s?

>TFW Everyone talks about this scene but not the actual movie

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No.
He is warping the facts to validate his own meaningless war against god. Just like he tried to portray his own, rebellion born of pride as a struggle for freedom.

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I've only seen the movie once, and it's a remarkably forgettable experience. Hell, this scene in particular is more memorable when taken out-of-context, but not so much when you see it with the rest of the movie.

Because a certain subset of atheist happens to be insufferable shitlords.
And like usual the screeching retards are what sticks in the mind of people.

Because atheism itself became plagued by worthless people who only hate their parents' religion and argue with fallacies in order to feed their ego. And as if it weren't enough, Atheism Plus happened.

Because it's the only thing that stands out.
The rest is just directionless noise, made worse by the uncanny animation and slow pacing.

As an atheist myself, some atheists (at least at the time) were just flat-out bigots.

Those are stupid reasons to go against atheism

Satan is bothered by God's love for humanity and wants to show God they are flawed iirc

I've given it a good college try, but all the things that work so well in this sequence (the awkward pacing, the uncomfortable, stiff character interactions, intricate, but choppy claymation, the bizarre warped spiritualism), they kind of make the movie as a whole less watchable.

Definitely a curiosity, but hard to get through.

Because the internet is filled with retarded contrarians who view conservative christianity as counter culture and as a way to oppose annoying atheists they see in random twitter screencaps.

>God creates Man out of mud
>He presents him to all his angels and tells them to bow to him
>Satan refuses indignantly
>The social engineers create the fag, the tranny, the nigger, the "refugee"
>They present them to all of us and tell us to bow to them
>Non-progressives refuse indignantly

Sometimes I wonder if the later mirrors the earlier. I've concluded that we should do what we think is best, defend ourselves, and let our fates fall where they may.