Its official, Dan Slott has lost the fucking plot

No, that's not quite correct. The "X-gene" is literally a separate chromosome and it can be detected whether or not you have one via long-range scanning equipment of various types (Cerebro, Sentinel eyes, etc.) It's stupid as fuck, but it's what we got. People who got their powers through accidental DNA modification are sometimes called mutates, though.

>oh, actually you arent magnetos kids, in fact you arent mutants at all. remember that whole "no more mutants" fiasco lol, ah well
>oh, actually you are gay, even though you were head over heals in love with that asian broad, and we can read your thoughts and you have never had a thought bubble thinking about man ass
>oh, you arent a mutant, you just used your powers to appear as a mutant
getting real tired of this shit

before this franklin was a mutant. i dont see why being a mutate would have any barring on it, they are still genetically human, and could have mutant or non mutant children just like any other human

What the fuck is even happening anymore
Why are they doing this???
I get why they did this shit with quicksilver, scarlet witch and squirrel girl but why Franklin???
Marvel got the rights back so there is no point in retconning

So first the FF told Chuck to fuck off, and now that the FF are willing to let Franklin live out his teenage rebellion, Chuck is telling Franklin to fuck off. The universe just doesn't want Franklin to be part of the X-Men's world it seems.

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Oh. I see. I thought Franklin had powers because his parents had powers, and that it was a case of
>human+human= possible mutant
>mutate+mutate= probable mutant

Because I remember there being some concern about whether Val had powers or not when she was born.

But you're saying Franklin being born a mutant was, prior to this retcon, just as likely or unlikely as Mr and Mrs Drake's son becoming Iceman, is that right?

i dont know when franklin was born in the marvel timeline, but he has cosmic powers, and his parents were radiated by some sort of cosmic shit in space, so maybe he was a fetus at the time? im more an xman reader then FF, so i only really read them when its a crossover or some such, like when wolverine ripped off things face and he had to wear a mask for a while

Thanks OP, for finding a new and original topic to discuss rather than posting the same picture 15 other faggots already shared today. Appreciate it.

Decades ago, anybody who was born with powers was considered a mutant. Marvel eventually soft retconned it so that you need to specifically be born with an X-Gene to be a mutant, but Franklin had been established as being a mutant for so long that he stayed a mutant, and since both the X-Men and FF were owned by Fox there was no reason for Marvel to change it unlike with Squirrel Girl or Toro.

Nah, Franklin was born way later.

And likewise, I'm fairly familiar with almost all capeshit, but X-Men are a huge blindspot for me because it's just so massive. Perhaps two blind men can dig a tunnel that meets in the middle.

Riiight. I should've figured it was an editorial oversight. Do you know when the soft retcon of the X-Gene happened?

>Toro
The 40s Human Torch's sidekick? How essential is he that he warranted a retcon?

Who cares about Franklin being a mutant? It has never been important.

Furthermore, the idea that a human with a different gene would be powerful enough to create an infinite number of universes by himself is pretty silly.

Yes and no. In DC, humans with powers are metahuman. But there's a subset whose powers come from the Metagene, which initially triggers during high-stress situations, which is why a lot of metahumans get their powers during accidents or traumatic events.
Or at least that's how it was after Invasion.

In Marvel, there's augmented/enhanced people (made supersoldiers like Cap, or tech-based like Iron Man), mutates (people who got powers from external factors, like Spidey, Hulk or the F4) and mutants (who get powers from the X-Gene, typically during puberty).

>As such, the breeding of two "human mutates", I believe is the term for a person who acquires powers, would create a "mutant", which is a humanoid whose X-Gene naturally activates at puberty?

X-Gene mutants can come from anyone, be it regular people or mutates, since it's supposed to be an evolutionary process from Homo Sapiens to Homo Superior

>The 40s Human Torch's sidekick? How essential is he that he warranted a retcon?
Not much. He was retconned into being an Inhuman in James Robinson's Invaders run, because it was during Marvel's big Inhumans push so they killed 2 birds with one stone for Toro.

i dont think its been explored that if you are a mutate you have a higher or lower chance to have a mutant child, or there powers would mimic yours, at least not yet

But was Franklin a mutant because his parents were mutates, or was said earlier, was it as coincidental as any mutant developing an X-Gene?

And just to throw another spanner into this conversation, what about Mayday Parker? Her dad's a mutate, her mother's a human, and she developed her powers at 15, which would make her a mutant. But she developed powers similar to her father's, so that can't be unrelated coincidence, right?

And as postulated correctly, despite not knowing much about F4, Franklin has cosmic powers and his parents got their powers from cosmic rays, so that's not exactly unconnected either.

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It was eventually confirmed that Mayday was not a mutant.

>marvel.fandom.com/wiki/May_Parker_(Earth-982)#Mutant_Status

Sorry guys, deleted my reply to add the last paragraph.

>It was confirmed by Tom Brevoort that she was not a mutant, as she wasn't technically "born with her powers" but "inherited [them] from her father" and was "bred true"

That's not really in-text, although I guess it couldn't be since Mayday hasn't been canon in a while and this statement is from a Tumblr Q&A in 2014.

That's Marvel worldbuilding, baby!