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Do you agree?

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It's a fucking cartoon...

By the will of Allah, I will slay ever last video essayist on the planet

Spongebob and its consequences have been a disaster for animation

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BUTT JUST A GAYMER THEORY

Lemme post an actually good video essay youtu.be/iZAcRJafmD4

Nah youtube.com/watch?v=Vb-ajY8M6gI

I feel like video essays giving more meaning to cartoon is the same as the fake deep lowfi videos youtube.com/watch?v=lrSjtfW7bp4

Calm down son, it’s just a drawing.

>a hour long video about a few unconnected jokes

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checked

filtered

I think it's really sad how American zoomers are so narrow-minded yet hungry for validation that they look for depth in light-hearted comedic cartoons.

Also how they cling to whatever mainstream media they watched as children as the masterpieces of art.

I like video essays as a concept. I'm all in for interpreting art however you want and looking for your own personal meanings, but these people are only interested in interpreting the most popular corporate products out there, never going beyond that. It's always MCU, Pixar or some show they watched as a kid. I mean, there's a time and a place for that too, people gotta start analyzing media somewhere, and I'm glad this stuff at least serves as a starting point, but a lot of "essayists" never go beyond that point.

Like sure, YOU COULD SAY that this episode TOUCHED ON this topic VERY BRIEFLY, but it didn't "explore" anything. Read a fucking book if you want an exploration of existential nihilism or anything for that matter. Maybe this will help make you a more interesting person who has more to say about more kinds of art, instead of a manchild swimming in a tiny pond and searching for hidden depths.

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What sort of things would you rather these channels be discussing? Just more obscure content? Genuine question, cause I agree with you, but I'd like to know what a good alternative would be.

I mean yeah, more obscure content would be great, though it's not just a matter of obscurity, but rather quality.
Mr Enter tried tackling some obscure stuff, but that was largely pointless because it was still the same type of comedic cartoons that are more preoccupied with making you laugh than telling some sort of a meaningful story.
Even if you do animation, there's lots of animated stuff with more meat to talk about than Spongebob. They could talk about Ren and Stimpy's background for instance, why it was so fucked up, what parallels could you try to draw with John K's mental health and beliefs. Or if you don't wanna get problematic they could talk about something like 12 Oz. Mouse. It's not "genius" but it's interesting in many regards. Maybe some web animation, like the stuff mdotstrange makes could be fun to dissect. They could even go to the insane horrifying lengths of actually talking about foreign non-Japanese animation, since a lot of it is at the very least subbed.

I would also generally want them to stop looking at things in a vacuum and start looking at them through a bit of a broder cultural lense. What were they influenced by, which trend/movement are they a part of, what you could reasonably expect from this kind of thing and whether this thing defies that expectation in some sort of way.

So basically you want people to actually talk about animation made for adults with the content to support real meaningful discussion, and you want them to talk about it like actual critics are supposed to (basically analyzing what the film's actually going for on its own terms and the context of a bigger art world)

There's a lot of anime reviewers online that do that (they range from normie to total fucking degenerates). Seems the western animation scene's pretty insulated from that, though. There's also comic channels that're that in depth if you ignore the ones trying to grift off culture war shit, though I think that's basically because the topic is genuinely niche enough that genuine fanatics who'll go over that sort of thing are more common.

I think the problem is that with anime, because the production will always inherently be an impossible position to reach, you have a more robust analysis community. In western animation, you have people actually trying to make it, and they're in more of a separate production/artist scene. And then you have the people who want to be fans and spend a lot of time talking about stuff as a separate scene. A real problem is that everyone who actually knows enough about animation to branch out and have real taste usually put their time into actually trying to get into a production position, which leaves the fan scene wide open for tasteless people who've got a surface understanding of stuff but mostly just want to be ecelebs.

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Ok but we need to replace the vidya with some cartoons

maybe this is relevant for Zig Forums but Zig Forums needs a separate picture

>let me tell you why this old Nickelodeon cartoon is actually the deepest thing ever
>heavy dicksucking of late 90s-early 2000s animation (the reviewer just happened to be born around that time)
>Into The Spider-Verse is an artistic masterpiece because it's vaguely stylized after comic books
>Gravity Falls is genius because it had continuity and basic ARG elements
>an hour long video video talking about how some new Dreamworks/Illumination kids movie is the end of the world
>always the safest, most sterile and generic opinions possible

Millennials ruined animation.

based and checked

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I just watched the episode.

You have to be really thick if you think there's much more to this.

made by a dyslexic guy

I watched the video and the guy is just overanalyzing the joke like usual

>not three hours long
Its shit

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Eugh

Pretty sure it was moreover was about respecting what you have now. Or just a joke on where Squidward's grumpiness will take him which was hardly the first time the show has made an episode centered around it.

In fact it seems pretty common for these media philosophy channels to by default assume nihilism or anti-capitalism.

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That was enjoyable

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R.I.P. EFAP

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I know its not Zig Forums but I had to get this one off my chest.
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>last updated 1 year ago
Failed video essay channels are pretty depressing.

Be glad. This "deep analysis of your favorite childhood video games" memes needs to die.

Don't forget
>3 hours explaining why popular modern cartoon is not actually as good as everyone thinks

This is what happens when you fall for the liberal arts meme anons
Do something sensible for once, take the STEM pill