Doctor Strange

>Literally Anything You Can Imagine: The Character
>doesn’t have a solo
>only story they know how to write is “muh powerloss”
>nobody ever uses his villains
>got turned into a “le quippy smartass”
Seriously, why can’t anyone get this simple concept and character right?

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>comicwriters in 2020 have little to no imagination and can only write edgy stories or political statements
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Can't even really write those either.

what are the best dr strange runs bros
Did that space one get axed or did it finish? I read halfway through and kinda stopped

> The SJW writers write political agitprop and lame humour.

> The Edgelord Deconstructionist writers can't write inspiring stories about heroes, they have them all behave like total assholes.

Both groups dominate comics to a degree that you can forget any fun imaginative escapism or inspiring heroism.

That's what happens when you hire for word count over ability.

>le quippy smartass
this drives me nuts with dr. strange
he's supposed to be sophisticated, urbane, erudite
now he just talks like a teenage dipshit

Ditko's

Honestly yeah, the only post 90s strange solo I liked was Waid's. Strange academy's strange was terrible

>best strange runs
Steve/Dikto
Roy Thomas
Roger Stern
Peter B Gillis
Steve Englehart

>Did that space one get axed or did it finish?
Axed before completion, but it was still enjoyable

Why hasn't he kicked the Hood's ass yet?

The most recent Strange run was like...barely 3 months ago? And he only had power loss for like 2 issues for that one just to blast him to space. I don't recall him being super quippy either

Seems a bit premature for this thread, he will 100% get relaunched.

Same reason Dormammu keeps coming back. Fucker leeches on Dormmy, so if Domammu is back he'll be there

Because comic book writers can’t imagine shit except failure and jobbing for cheap shock value

>redditfag speaks as if he knows anything
Strange hadn't had a solo since the 90s by the time Aaron's version rolled around. Back in 2015, and Strange spent it depowered. The entire run. To the point where Loki became Sorcerer Supreme. And before that Strange got depowered and Voodoo became Sorcerer Supreme. In Waid's run he started off as powerless due to the Aaron run. And yes, he was quippy, wearing sneakers and having no gloves.
>inb4 muh retcon
We still spent what, 4 years with
>le ebin axe weilding vomitting doc
Because now magic has a price and that price is vomitting. Becaue God forbid they use the character and write some stories with a grand scale, nooooooo muh Sorcer Supreme neeeds earthly limits so that zombie ninjas can still give him trouble! Fuck off.

>Axed before completion
That's the Surgron Supereme run from the same writer though

Aaron, Cates, Humphries and Waid all shit

>Aaron's version rolled around. Back in 2015, and Strange spent it depowered. The entire run. To the point where Loki became Sorcerer Supreme
the only fun part was Sentry getting another anti-asgard action and sleeping while Strange transmutated a realm. Or was it Cates'?

That was cates. And cates' run was still shit because he used Aaron strange's personality

True, but it was kind of a continuation from the previous series

>Because now magic has a price
Don't give aaron credit where he doesn't deserve. Price of magic predates him by a lot, he only did it terribly

>Aaron strange's personality
true. I remember Strange not knowing who Cull is and shit like that.

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Dr Orpheus from VB is a much better Strange than the MCU version. I will always be a tad mad about how dumb they made movie Strange.

> this simple concept and character
having a wizard as the MC is actually very hard, especially if he's extremely powerful.
It's basically like writing superman, in the sense that you have to bend the plot over his powerset so he can't solve the issue in two panels, but even worse since magic isn't limited to the five or six superpowers the character has.

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This run draws on Aaron's Strange run a lot even up to having some shit prisoner in Strange's basement. Fuck, I hate it. At least Duggan's Strange in Savage Avengers is decent

One thing I did like about movie Strange is how he chose to defeat Dormammu

Yeah, but somehow writers occassionally manage it with Constantine. Not all the time, but he does have more good runs than Strange.

Constantine has way lower "power levels" than Strange. A better comparison would be Dr Fate, which suffers similarly with tons of de-powering and newbies taking over the title to keep it down

Constantine isn't extremely powerful

>Constantine
>similar to Strange
Why are all of you tourists posting in my thread? Are there no actual Strangefags left?

He's not that far wrong. Classic Strange was a powerhouse but he operated like Constantine in that he defeated many superior entities by tricking them or bluffing them in some way even when hopelessly outgunned.

It’s not an apt comparison because Strange still has a shitton of actual power which can translate in different kinds of stories, before he deals with OMNIPOTENT GIGAULTRAMEGA ABSTRACT. Hellblazer takes place in Bongland and has stories about Vietnam Ghosts.

Constantine deals with the First of the Fallen all the time. He may not be a reality-warper, but he's not really a slouch either, despite pretending to be one.
Strange is ridiculously powerful, or at least he's supposed to be, but that doesn't really amount to anything in the end. He still jobs to lesser mages and uses to same trick as John to defeat powerhouses.

Their stories are usually very different though. Constantine, at least the good ones, tend to be grounded and very political while Strange dabbles with extra-planar and bombastic magical stuff way more

>It's basically like writing superman,
Which isn't difficult

>in the sense that you have to bend the plot over his powerset so he can't solve the issue in two panels
You really don't just learn to write physical conflict and tactics.

>but even worse since magic isn't limited to the five or six superpowers the character has.
Make that like 12 powers. Unoriginal hack like you are the reason we don't get to see most of them anymore.

>but he does have more good runs than Strange.
He has one and strange has 4 or 5.

Only British political obsessives think Constantine is good.

Fair enough. The one thing that always upset me about Strange is how writers almost always ignore that he started out as a surgeon. I know it's hard to write medical professionals when you're not one yourself, but you'd think an origin like that would have a greater impact on a character's actions and personality.

>to be grounded and very political
Which is why I hate the character

>have magic character
>focus on bong politics.

Name them? One off powers from the fucking golden age don't count like Superman being able to shoot miniature clones of himself

>Only British political obsessives think Constantine is good.
very true

>He has one
That's objectively not true. Hell, the current Hellblazer run is brilliant.

>He has one and strange has 4 or 5.
That one better be delano's you twit

Not him but it's why I unironically think he's got one of the best MCU flicks. Undid the damage to a city rather than destroy one in a fight and then haggles with the sickness to ward it off.