Is Vampira the first goth character to appear in cartoon?
Drak Pack 1980
Liam Wright
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Kayden Price
I doubt very much that the Hannah Barbera writers were aware of the goth rock scene when developing Drak Pack so it's really just coincidence.
Ryan Green
depends on what counts as goth
James Murphy
if we're just counting cartoons, probably mrs j evil scientist, 1959
Colton Phillips
creepella gruesome
the flintstones, 1964
Charles Young
bella la ghostly
groovy ghoulies, 1971
that's all the early ones i know
Henry Jackson
These are all spooky ladies, but I wonder what the actual first goth character is.
Not "gothic and appealing to the goth subculture"
I mean "a member of the subculture arising in the early 80s"
Asher Bell
Goth culture and Zig Forums didn't really intersect until '89
Adrian King
wonderfully edgy
Aaron Morales
It's funny, there are just as many depressed young people drinking and drugging themselves to death as there were back then when Gen X were teens, maybe even more but they can't be edgy or even (goth-lite) emo about it anymore because we made it fashionable and youth culture is obligated to reject the fashion of the previous generation
Liam Ramirez
kids these days are taking depression to strange new places
Kayden White
Dunno, Ozamu Tezuka had that "Don Dracula" series.
Jaxon Green
Yeah post-irony. I wonder if disdaining your parents is as effective at getting them to leave you alone as hating them was.
Jayden Green
dunno, but she could very well be the first sticc
sometimes they draw her legitimately bony; hot
Michael Thompson
What were they thinking?
Nicholas Jackson
Based user, I remembered this series but not the name.
Kayden Clark
so thats where magneto got his costume in the morrison run
Levi Brooks
They were thinking CBS was stealing their viewers with The Munsters
Cameron Gutierrez
that bug dinosaur is CUTE!
Carson Powell
Aren't you forgetting a rather obvious example?
Kayden Ramirez
I don't think it's because we made it fashionable and they're rejecting that. I think it's because we made it "bad" to be sincere about things by plugging the whole "ironically" liking things and shit like that. People used to LOVE showing off their band shirts, the band was part of your whole personality. Liked Goth music? You dressed like a Goth so everyone knew. Punk? Same thing. Emo? Same thing. But that requires passion about what you like. And passion about liking things to that degree was made uncool, except for things like adults being Star Wars nerds because that makes Disney billions. And so now we have a whole generation of kids who don't even feel okay wearing a printed t-shirt of their favorite band in an unironic way, because that's the hellscape we paved the way for. If it doesn't have the backing of a huge corporation pumping out ads that explicitly says that it's cool to wear this stuff then it falls in the "no I can't show genuine appreciation for this".
Even on their most glum day a punk or goth had more passion than the depressed kids these days, because at least they went all out on their costumes. Today you dress to fade into the background, not stand out, because standing out and proclaiming your love for something non-corporation-approved means being a dweeb who CARES about things, and that's just uncool.
Elijah Fisher
what the hell is she cooking
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Wyatt Evans
Yeah, I think this Vampira is a pretty straight rip-off of the 50's B-Movie femme fatale who starred in Plan 9 from Outer Space.
Luke Jones
Forgot pic.
Logan Hall
source?
Michael Sanchez
Morticia?!
Dominic Bennett
Pretty sure it's from a cartoon where Rick Moranis plays the human teacher at a monster school? I just recognise that snake hair.
Caleb Nelson
If you're going for goth subculture, the earliest depiction of the stereotype without actually putting a name to it would almost have to be Lydia Deetz from The Beetlejuice cartoon. (1989)
Brody Powell
Gravedale High
Christopher Martin
Irony is a millennial thing. The Gen X version is this less subtle thing called sarcasm. Maybe you've heard of it.
Caleb Cooper
Nope, got her beat by about 6 years.
That's Vampira.
Ethan Myers
She looks like she listens to The Cure, Dead Can Dance, and Cocteau Twins
Christopher Kelly
I would agree this is most likely the first animated representative. Got a bit of a leg up by being a movie adaptation, Hollywood was faster to cash in on trends than animation back then.