How would the Vex fare in the DC and Marvel universe?

How would the Vex fare in the DC and Marvel universe?

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Depends on if they're sending engineers and farmers or actual warriors.

Those engineers and farmers are still pretty busted. I don't think they'd have any reason to send their warrior class if they don't deem even the Guardians worth that level of effort.

What are Vex warriors even like, anyway?

So the Vex are a Gardener/Traveler creation right? Made to run simulations on finding a way to beat the Winnower/Darkness?

Both the Gardener and Winnower had a hand in creating the patterns that formed them. But the Winnower specifically championed the original Pattern (Vex pre-Patternfsll) as being the original Final Shape.

>Listened to Destiny lore videos because I have no intention of ever playing a looter shooter
Ok, so why the fuck is the Solar System so goddamn crowded with multiple different alien races? Like it's fucking weird how there's no alien race with a fleet of ships that can just dominate a puny star system. Destiny's scale is weird, it's like a sci fi story with galactic scale events that's only confined to the solar system. It makes the solar system feel super large.

>Ok, so why the fuck is the Solar System so goddamn crowded with multiple different alien races?
Combination of a lot of factors, but mostly because the Traveler and Darkness have invested themselves here. The Vex are also technically everywhere by default.

>Like it's fucking weird how there's no alien race with a fleet of ships that can just dominate a puny star system.
Both the Cabal, Hive, and Vex all have the means to destroy solar systems. The Vex even have a solar system entirely under their control beyond Sol, likely others as well. The only reason the Sol system survives is because of the Traveler.

>It makes the solar system feel super large.
That's because it is. Despite what cape comics and manga try to sell you user, our solar system is ridiculously huge and resource abundant. You are 100% capable of setting massive events and battles in a single system without ever needing to go beyond it.

>It makes the solar system feel super large.
Dont worry user, no need to feel there's too much stuff in this one little solar system, with the new Beyond Light dlc they remove more than half of the planets you were able to go to so now its a lot clearer, isn't that better?
what, you wanted to play the old content on those planets? too bad, you'll just have to wait til Bungie re-releases them from Vault at later date.

You can still replay that content if you haven't gotten Beyond Light as yet. And the whole point of Beyond Light is to emphasize the fact that shit is fucked and we're starting to hit the major threats.

Traveler is waking up and more and more species are plugging into Darkness powers. Even if the Sol Divisive is cool with Darkness, the rest of the Vex probably aren't cool with it seeing as they wish to grow beyond being a Darkness lacky.

Plus, Osirus only recently saw the Infinite Forest forecast a Darkness-dominated future instead of a Vex-dominated one. Its very very likely that whatever central intelligence sits at the center of the Vex network has detected this change in forecast as well and will certainly take steps to return things to the status quo that was apparently going to guarantee a Vex universal victory.

>What are Vex warriors even like, anyway?
Probably a lot like Exos

You can't though. The Beyond Light patch removed those planets for everyone. They're gone.

Lore says those new Wyvern units in Beyond Light are some of the warrior-class Vex, so something like that.

>he didn't finish all the quests on every planet several times over the instant the game + most of the DLC went free-to-play
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

The Winnower does remark that the Sol Divisive are those who "found their way back home" in Unveiling, so it clearly recognizes that they belonged to it to start with. But I also don't think it would care if the Vex won out over the Darkness. It would still win because they'd still be fulfilling the Final Shape.

Remember that the Winnower isn't some big bad person or God using Darkness-powers to take over reality. It is the principle of simplicity and stasis, of Death and survival of the fittest. Whoever wins the war that is existence has the absolute claim to existence. This could be the Vex as it was in the previous Flower Games, or it could be the Hive, or potentially even Humanity itself. Either way, the Final Shape is proven.

The average Guardian is barely stronger than your C-List cape, and the Vex have been stalled fighting them for centuries, so Supes or whoever could probably punch his way into the heart of the Black Garden with ease.

Judging Guardians by gameplay is pretty wrong, given we have lore of Warlocks throwing around supernovas and singularities like candy, Guardians collapsing universes, their guns tearing through space-time, firing blackholes, etc.

Hell, if you believe Calus Ikora can shatter planets. And Zavala's super was enough to vaporize the Shadowkeep.

What do the other aliens have in comparison to the bullshit magic of the Guardians and the Hive? Can they compete?

A single Vex system (2082 Volantis) outside of the Sol system reveals their sheer insanity: they deconstructed an entire solar system to create a megastructure with the purpose of keeping a star alive for 13 billion years. They ate Mercury practically overnight. All of this appears to have been done by the ground "troops" that you see for the Vex, which are actually the equivalent of their construction workers. They existed in the Garden, before the creation of their multiverse, with an infinite number of universes that each have ever-branching timelines. They have access to and exist across all of those timelines and universes, and can not only move sideways between timelines but forward and backward through time itself. Even their normal "guns" (which are really just their equivalent of repurposed construction tools) draw energy through time. They draw troops from both the future and past, and can even bring troops in from the past that have already been destroyed, meaning their numbers are effectively infinite. Vex units can outright simulate infinitely nested multiverses.

We also know what the version of the Final Shape that will befall the Destiny multiverse should the Vex win from Clovis Bray's Journal. Every possible infinite multiverse eternally tortured and turned into Vex, creating more nested universes within their victims flesh, and so on ad infinitum.

The Cabal have really big tanks

I did say the average guardian. That said, I don't consider Calus' fanfiction a reliable benchmark, and Zavala was juiced on stolen Traveller light when he busted the Scarlet Keep, and doing that still killed him.

Shit, Osiris was basically the big dick Warlock of all big dick Warlocks and he nearly died from a Zoom call with Xivu Arath. Anyone who isn't the Young Wolf is all but cannon fodder.

The Fallen used to be the Traveler's favorites and they still have the scraps of bullshit magic he left behind, and the Cabal have legions of expendable vat-grown soldiers and they're like, really good at shooting stuff.

>Clovis Bray Journal:

>The Vex will not rest until every star has been crushed into a black hole and every newborn cosmos filled with more Vex. And in the unending array of their enslaved cosmos, they will simulate all possible pasts, and fill those with Vex, so that all things that have ever lived or might ever live will experience infestation and consumption and torment by the silica nightmare.

>And in those devoured simulations, the simulated Vex will use our flesh as hosts for yet more nested universes full of yet more nested copies of us eternally tormented by yet more Vex.

>An infinite regression of pain and madness inflicted upon every possible version of us in every possible world. Not because they hate us, or fear us, or want to punish us. But because they are indifferent and curious, and they will do every possible thing to us in every possible way.

And that's just one single flower out of a single game. This is the equivalent of saying that just because the mold has grown enough that it has started building up guns in the fridge to repel the farmers that this means it will be capable of fighting off the exterminators when they get called.

The Cabal can destroy stars and planets, and their psions can move moons with their minds on top of Calus' bullshit. The Vex have and more besides, and the Eliksni have a lot of desperation and questionable tactics.

The Cabal have fleets. They're the "conventional military" faction which is funnily enough not humanity for once. The Fallen don't have fleets, they just roam around like Jawas and their motherships and the Hive had the Dreadnought made from a dead god and a whole bunch of drop ships they use to just dump monsters because Hive prefer to kill things up close.

>It is the principle of simplicity and stasis
It's also an autistic faggot who flips out when anyone tries to mess with the rules of his favorite game. I agree that Darkness wouldn't mind if the Vex just stepped the fuck up to out-Darkness Darkness, but if they "cheat" to accomplish that end, Darkness may REEEEE at them just like he did at Light.

Fuck the Bray family. All of them.

Xivu Arath is one of the big three Hive Gods, who are powerful enough to fuck with even the Vex who can simulate infinitely nested multiverses. Osiris trying to mess with her wasn't a knock against him; that's simply how powerful she is.

Even Eris doesn't really try to throw hands with Hive deities directly and she knows the Hive better than anyone not named Toland.

>Kids, I love you and I want to see you succeed. But you aren't playing my game right, so I'll have to punish you like I punished your mother. Don't struggle.

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>Scouts report the Witherhoard is just...gone.

The Young Wolf chewed through half a dozen Echoes of Oryx while the dude was next door, Osiris can't handle a single Echo of Xivu Arath when the god herself is on the ass end of the galaxy?

I hate those things. Especially on Void Singe.

The Echoes of Oryx really aren't indicative of his full power. Reminder that Eris helped the Young Wolf figure out a means to prepare and strengthen themselves several times over before they even came face-to-face with Oryx directly during the Taken King. And during the raid, he's still 100% capable of ending you in an instant if you fuck up.

Not only did Osiris go in with basically no plan or backup, he also went in not really knowing what he was dealing with. He deals in the Vex and their powers, not the Hive. Let alone their Gods. This is the reason he needed to be bailed out by Sagira and almost died instantly.

I also feel the need to point out that even your average Hive grunt is equipped with cosmic weaponry. The description for the Hive Boomer literally states it's powered by a fragment of some dead celestial body through which it fires bolts of starfire. And Hive Gods are orders of magnitude beyond this.

Osiris was fucked the instant Xivu Arath decided to come in for her booty-call.

So we're not sure if Osy has gotten weak or stupid in his old age?

As a Warlock main, I'm honestly srsly bummed about him getting basically character assassinated.