Who was in the wrong here?

if he knew someone would use that to put a wedge between them maybe he would have steered into it, but at the time he probably wanted to secure Bucky first before putting nutjob Tony on the trail. if Steve told him HYDRA did it and didn't mention Bucky Tony would probably still be pissed the important part to him was it was literally by Bucky's hands they were killed

I still dislike how the movie was called "civil war"-- sure you had a brother Vs. brother confrontation and the accords were nation-wide, but literally only the main avengers roster fought each other. I know the MCU is extremely small compared to Earth-616 but the movie still should've had Avengers Endgame-level of amount of characters at the very least.

Humans don't always address complex emotional problems in a prompt manner. More often than not people tend to procrastinate and convince themselves they're just waiting for "a good moment."

It makes sense to me that Cap just kept kicking that can down the road until an international incident ruined any chance of finding that good moment.

I mean Tony supported Ross' idea, that was already a red flag. Though I do find it funny how despite trying to get everyone else to sign the Accords, Tony literally hasn't spent a day in his life following them himself.

Yes I get that, but Cap is suppossed to be the best of us, so I think he could find some proper moment to atleast address it so he could help Tony as he was still a pretty close friend at the time.

Steve knew for at least 2 years what Bucky did under Hydras control and never once thought to tell Tony. He would have been enraged at first but after a bit would understand it wasn’t really Bucky behind the murders.
But Steve just couldn’t let his Buckyboner go down for more than 2 seconds.

>Cap is supposed to be the best of us
[Citation needed]

Steve Rogers is a good man, but he isn't perfect. Thats kinda the whole point of his character.

>Cap was wrong about the accords
>just be government's bitch, goy

READ NIGGER
if they didn't sign they'd be branded as criminals how the fuck are they suppose to do their jobs and save lives if all modern countries will attack them they did not have a choice. Black Widow also said the accords are bad but that there was no alternative. they talk about how the government will first go for Wanda because of all the shit she's done should they just go to war with the planet in her defense

Tony because he got beat up harder.
Don't talk shit if you can't take a hit.

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MUH PARENT HE KILLED MUH PARENT
What a retard.

he got double teamed.

Poor baby.

I was never really able to get back into Tony's court after Age of Ultron and this.
He was just a man of poor judgement and he never seemed to learn his lessons, he just doubled down on his excuses.
It was really hard for me to feel anything for the character in Infinity War and End Game.

In the real world, Tony would have been right

but in the Marvel world, trusting Superheroes to governments that are inevitably going to be puppeted by villains is just not a sound decision and would inevitably result in problems.

You have to consider the issue in both the real world and the Marvel world.

>Government mandated heroes

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If Winter Soldier's plot line about Hydra being in everything didn't exist, Tony might have had some ground to stand on.
But that plot like did happen, and it wasn't incidental, it had a direct effect on what happened in this movie. The fact that he thought the government could be trusted after they let a nazi scientist do whatever they want on their turf means he's actually dysfunctional and needs mental help.

In a world where the government can be controlled by villains, turn out to be possessed by monsters, heroes must outside of the law.

Cap was right. The DCAU guys did a roundtable discussing this premise

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Unironically tied to kill a guy that can punch through asphalt while his not-bf that can benchpress helicopters was watching
Smartest man on the MCU, everyone

>glownigger just laughs when Cap asks about Bucky getting a fair trial
If the authorities operate outside the law, there's nothing wrong with Cap shirking the rules, too.

This is why I'm convinced people who sided with Tony watched the movies out of order. Even if you like Tony more or want to believe he simply didn't know all the details, the previous movie was literally 100% about not giving the government too much power.

>NNNNOOOO MY BILLION DOLLAR POWERSUIT CAN'T HANDLE ANYTHING MORE THAN A 1V1 STOP PLEASE