Failing of modern spidey

In this thread we talk about what makes modern spider-man fall flat compared to the old stuff. For me, it's simple: the spider family detracts heavily from the drama of it all.

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the "spider family" is barely a factor in ASM, in over two years of Spencer's run so far they've been in only one arc.
Hell, they barely interact PERIOD. Peter showed up like once or twice in Miles' book, he's a supporting character in Gwen's because he's working at ESU and that's it. No Ben, no Kaine, no Julia, etc.

Like I said in the other thread, the BND/Slott era just feels like a flanderized Spider-Man. There were times it felt like it desperately needed to be funny or excessively grim for the sake of being grim. It had some decent writers/stories in it but it's kind of marred by that.

This isn't funny. We are having a nice productive Spider-Man thread for a change, and you just want to be a dick with your inverted copy thread.

That's where opinions differ. I think it's hilarious.

Maybe so, but they still lessen it. Especially with dumb shit like Peter and Miles sharing a mantle.

No more character development and change, only an endless cycle of clickbait happenings that are never relevant to peter after a couple of runs.

He's no longer a man.
He's just a manchild.

He sucks and i dont like him

It does not even feel like a flanderized Spider-Man, it feels like Peter Parker lost his personality other than being depressed and making quips.

> Watered down hero - he's just a part of a set now, a collection of spider-people - all of his uniqueness vanished.
> Influence of MCU that made him in eyes of regular people into a character that no longer feels independent and capable
> Recent stories were simply bad and get character in a different directions but it didn't work out. Whole Kindred arc is pathetic and bringing Sin Eater made it even worse. It all feels like trying to be dark and edgy for the sake of being dark and edgy and dropping shit ton of characters for no reason doesn't help at all.
>Oversaturation of Superheroes in general. As one of the biggest and most recognisable icons Peter playing second fiddle in every possible way in all medias just makes him not interesting.

now he's married to a supermodel and goes home to an apartment that probably costs 9K per month in rent. he's long since lost his everyman appeal. marriage changed him.

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Spider-Man was never an everyman, he's a super handsome super genius with superpowers.

literally me

when he started out he was a gangly, dorky kid that all the girls ignored or made fun of. he was smart, but not super genius.

For me its the fact that Peter isn't allowed to age or succeed at anything long term. The stories are stagnant as hell.
Peter pretty much stopped being that guy as soon as he hit college.

I would much prefer if they switched things up and focused on Man-Spider as a new IP

>For me its the fact that Peter isn't allowed to age or succeed at anything long term.
Translated; I'm a self-inserting autist who isn't happy that Peter finds content in a simple life, and demand that he be that Parker Industry bullshit.

Fucking figures this thread keeps getting bumped and not the other one with actual in depth discussion as to why Peter works as a character

>Fucking figures this thread keeps getting bumped and not the other one with actual in depth discussion as to why Peter works as a character
You made a feel-good thread about praising what works about a character in the modern day...about a character who has been ruined by most of his modern day stories.

I didn't make the thread, and no, we were discussing what makes Peter Parker a good/timeless character. Furthermore, your pessimistic "hurr durr modern Spidey sucks" with next to no argument isn't a conversation. Spencer's run is fine, and actually remembers why the fuck people like Peter.

The guy had a fucking harem anime style, he was building impossible gadgets like nothing. Spider-Man was never that regular guy, he's in fact one of the least grounded heroes in comics personal life wise.

>The guy had a fucking harem anime style
I don't think you know what a harem is

That still makes him more of an everyman than whatever the hell that Parker Industries storyline was trying to do

Make him Iron-man, like every other Spidey thing these days.

Peter should be a science teacher who patents shit in his spare time.

Retard alert. Spider-Man's always been grounded because, at the end of the day, he's got real life issues to deal with after all the super-heroing--a sick aunt, bills to pay, appearances to keep up among friends/ peers.

But keep being a contrarianfag, it's funny to watch people misunderstand the character.

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I'm fine with him being a science teacher who gets by with some patents, it seems like a believable change, rather than him getting a company that he didn't make, somehow still running it for some undetermined amount of time, and losing it completely.

Yeah Parker's Industries and the associated midget lover was just Slott inserting HARD into Doc Ock and wanting his cake and to eat it.

>impossible gadgets
Aside from the webshooters based off of his fathers notes what did he actually make? The spider trackers and his flashlight and that's basically it.

why is this a bad thing? fuck spidernigger, fuck spiderchink and fuck dimension hopping gwen

He built a device to disable Vulture's flight harness
A temporary cure for Doctor Connors

A lot of his gadgets are situational, because his powers and usual stuff work so well

I always wonder how they came up with his powers because they're so unusual but make for great action