We had the conversation of who is the best Batman countless of times...

We had the conversation of who is the best Batman countless of times, so this time I'm going to ask who is the best Bruce Wayne?

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Keaton, obviously.

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Bale, no question.

Bale for the American Psychopath memes

Anybody who says anything other than West doesn't understand the character.

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Keaton>Afleck>West>Clooney>>kilmer>Bates

Bale looked the age, partied with the girls, and then got down to brass tax when he had to about the company. Think he was best.

I mean, which Bruce Wayne? Silver Age mostly normal Bruce? Bruce as the mask? Batgod Bruce? The Bruce-Batman dynamic has changed and I think it's reflected a lot in how different actors portrayed the character.

Keaton did the best job of portraying less-intense Bruce, a Batman early in his career who still hasn't been consumed by the mask.

I have zero memory of Kilmer and I'm not gonna rewatch that fucking movie so fuck it.

Clooney desu is the only real failure, as he portrays Bruce far too easygoing and relaxed, this isn't a "I'm vengeance, I'm the night" Batman, this is genuinely a rich frat boy dressing up for fun. Far too effortlessly charming, Batman needs to have some steel to him.

Bale I think came closest to a modern Bruce Wayne - Bruce presents an arrogant playboy persona, it's passable but also clearly not the real him, he's going through some shit, and being Batman is more important than everything else.

We've also had this conversation countless times. Stop acting like this is a more unique subject.

The answer is Val Kilmer, by the way.

Why Kilmer? He only had one movie...

Timothy Dalton

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That really shouldn't matter.

No user, he asked for best "Batman", not best Bond. Though this could work.

Adam West

Always struck me as too villainous to play Bats.

Tacks, the saying is brass tacks.

>Bruce as a mask, Batman is his whole life

Bale

>Modern Bruce where he is incredibly invested in both lives to breaking points but maintains his playboy/rich man persona well

Batfleck

>Lives a double life with a an upbeat quality in both roles, seems to enjoy being who he is

Keaton and West

>Introspective Bruce who's always well spoken, how we usually see him in classic Batman and Robin stories up through the Silver Age

Kilmer

>Clooney desu is the only real failure, as he portrays Bruce far too easygoing and relaxed
It's still supposed to be the same Bruce from the previous film, so him being a little more relaxed makes sense. Though I agree he didn't really have the kind of moment of righteous fury even Adam West's version had.

He's probably one of the few actors to accurately portray Bruce's inner conflicts in stark contrast to his public persona. He's suave, charming and witty in the limelight, but tepid and detached when alone in the cave, constantly lost in thought even when focused on various tasks. He's clearly buried under the weight of his issues, but he's good at hiding it when he needs to.
Also the fact that the plot is centered on him ultimately overcoming said issues is a major plus, considering the past two decades of Batman media being so focused on him being borderline psychotic or hopelessly broken.

Adam West was pure late-Golden Age Batman. There was barely any separation between his personas except for the mask and a slight change of voice. Still, like I said above, he was able to get serious when the moment called for it.

Keaton's Bruce was was awkward and poorly social, whether in public or not. Again, there was barely any separation between his personas, but on the opposite end of the scale hero-antihero scale.

Clooney was Adam West's version without the humor.

Bale was low effort. Bruce's playboy persona was much too obvious, a bad impression of a 50's socialite. His "true" Bruce was on the lower end of manic depressive. His war on crime was a chore, not a mission.

Affleck accurately portrayed Bruce's manic drive and paranoia, but lacked the duality of the cleaner image. He was amicable, but reeked of preoccupation. Being well-known was clearly the chore here.

Best Batman Keaton, Best Bruce Wayne Adam West

You're both wrong, it's brass stacks.

>His "true" Bruce was on the lower end of manic depressive.
I never saw it that way but it does make sense. Bale really was the Batman who hated being Batman. It wasn't a "this is a burden I must bear", it was straight up "I hate that I'm doing this" and he tries to quit at every point he can.

The evil murderous old angry paranoid delusional grand-pa who was keeping shirtless BIPOCs around for shits and giggles on CRISIS

Adam West

I guess to me Bale is the easy answer because Bale "felt" most like a playboy, in my conception.

And I guess that's reflective of the times? What even is a "playboy"? I know that part of this is a term from the 1960s or so, but it never really gets embodied in anybody else but Bale, as far as I'm concerned.

Bale's Bruce drives Lamborghinis, the most ostentatious of exotic cars. He has vacuous big-titted women hanging off his arm. He openly flaunts the fact that he can spend tens of millions of dollars in a single night and it makes no difference to him at all. He wears nice suits, but they're ill-fitting nice suits because he's tacky and only cares about the label, rather than whether they're good tailoring. He wears Armani but it's ill-fitting Armani.

All that screams "useless billionaire playboy" to me in a way none of the other characters do. Bale's Bruce is a character that is tacky, ostentatious, and outrageous. Which is what I feel like "billionaire playboy" should be. Or at least it's the kind of character that Bruce, the real Bruce, would construct, to allay suspicions.

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Mostly this
Although to be honest I have a soft spot for George Clooney Batman.
I always saw Batman and Robin as an adaption of the campy 60s Batman from both the comics and TV show. And Clooney, more so than Kilmer plays such a lighthearted but serious goofy Batman that it actually works, he’s a good campy Batman. Bake is a personal favorite because of how he portrayed Batman, a man driven for justice and that is all, his personal life takes a backseat. Bale was perfect for that role of the rich guy who has a different to him, which is what he played in American Psycho and Shaft. I like Batfleck mostly because I feel like Ben’s square Jaw and build was perfect for Batman. If you think about he was the BEST looking Batman, I like Bale but he still has that hot British Boy look, as opposed to Ben Affleck’s Square Jawed All American look. Keaton for some reason always reminded me of the Batman from the 90s cartoon, a normal Bruce Wayne, not a rich douchebag like Bale or a sad Bruce like Batfleck. But he’s still serious when he puts on the mask, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Paul Dini and Bruce Timm got inspiration from the Tim Burton films

Batman v Superman trailer batfleck. Only the trailer version.

It always bothers me when Bruce is smart or suave. He's originally based on the Scarlet Pimpernel, he's supposed to be such a buffoon no one would ever think he's Batman. If he's Batman in all ways but the suit why try to keep his identity secret?

That reminds me, would it be too on the nose to create a hero whose alter ego is basically Donald Trump?

Is being a clown and a loser the point of his alter ego?

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