>n-nooooo we didn’t loose because of our incompetence it was muh winter!
>please read my memoirs, 100% truth there, it was all Hitlers fault, we were masters of war!
N-nooooo we didn’t loose because of our incompetence it was muh winter!
>soviet education threda
Yeah, Glantz is such sovietoboo, I’ll read Mansteins memoirs instead, he totally isn’t a biased towards his own performance!
Germans ... they fucking ruined it all.
They were so incompetent.
If only we had their numbers on our own we would have destroyed the allies all by ourselves.
That's why we signed peace with you and declared war on nazi germany, it was to punish them for fucking everything up. Dumb fucking idiot Germans.
>Nooooooooooooo not my winterinho, my precious russolero
>Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Soviet memoirs be like:
>...and here we found 6 million dead Poles in this forest killed by the Nazis....
>Dumb fucking idiot Germans.
Yeah, imagine invading the Soviet Union using the maps from 1920s, not even trying to get the information on reserves and armies and expecting to win without sufficient resources
It’s all pretty well documented on nazi side as well.
Litteraly this book in a nutshell
Stalin was worse than hitler
I found this package of soylent my fellarinhos.
xD
I wish germany had won
>It’s all pretty well documented on nazi side as well.
DDR=/=Nazi Germany
Based nazibro, pass me a bottle before it freezes in -3000 epic Russian winter of death!
I think the most important factor was Hitlers diplomacy before the war and the lack of ressources and manufacturing capacity compared to the allies. Hitler made too many enemies and too few strong allies, so the war was lost before it even started.
And how would that have changed your life in any way?
And yet Germany is loved by the world while Russia is still Mordor.
I don’t even know why he didn’t keep buying fuel and other stuff from Soviets
>but they were about to attack!
Yeah, they made plans to attack, but the plans are nothing but that. Soviet army wasn’t ready in the 1941, and would’ve not been even close to ready by 1943. Hitler had all time he could’ve hoped for to invade Britain or just keep pushing to Middle East
>but they were about to attack!
They were. The longer he waited the stronger Russia would have become.
It was a take it or leave it and he took it.
They might've if they had reached Baku oilfields, after all 80% of oil for the entire Soviet Union was being supplied from there at that time.
They couldn't really get into Caucasus proper though, the first offensive stage in 1942 from July to October ended in massive failure they lost like 100 000 men during just the first offensive hence it ended in failure.
The changes would be so massive that no one born after the timelines diverged would exist
The Soviets started reorganization in 1940, they weren’t combat ready in 1941, and would’ve spent years to get ready. And even after that, as history shows, without proper combat experience they would’ve never performed well. It took them 2 years to learn how to fight against Germans. It took brits more than 2 years to understand that you should use combined arms warfare, while Germany had that knowledge already locked in
I'm not sure, but I think Hitler claimed that the SU was about to invade Romania and that would have cut off Germany from their most important oil fields, making further war impossible. The SU could have cut off oil exports at any time if war broke out, so Germany would have been fucked in that case. They knew a war would happen inevitably, so they decided to strike first. They also severely underestimated the red army and the production capabilities of the SU.
>he could’ve hoped for to invade Britain
There is literally no way this would have ever happened, the royal navy was way too strong.
Probably better because the world would be Eurocentric not america centric
WW2 and National Socialism is just pure cringe, I hate talking about it and wish it simply never happened
finnshit, post your adress so i can beat you like a retarded dog
Yeah maybe invasion of Britain itself is a bit far fetched, but if he commited resources to Africa, he could’ve made Mediterranean an "Axis lake". He could’ve forced Spain to join, etc.
Italian navy was pretty alright, if they had time to prepare a little better without half the British fleet fucking around Mediterranean, they could’ve been a formidable force of their own.
No scenario where germany wins the war would involve defeating the US, because reaching them was literally impossible. The US would have been a major world power in any case, maybe the cold war would have been between germany and the US though.
Misha, you don't have the intellect to lie about this. The Germans had no records of this which is why they say it was all told in epic euphemisms. Dont ever fucking think a mere slavshit has the capacity to ape the jews
Meh, the whole thing was doomed from the start, but hindsight is 20/20. Hitler was a gambler and thought he would become the second Frederick the Great. Turns out he was the second Napoleon instead (minus the military genius).
>lie
Lol, just read a tiny bit of history.
Yes, but there would have been an opposition to capitalism in Europe.
(*and more genocidal)
they could have played the victim though and got the US on their side had they not fucked with britain so much
then they could have beaten the SU all they want with american support and gotten that farmland or whatever
Germany would have probably been similar to how China is today, an authoritarian regime with a strictly controlled market economy. I guess the social policies would be different though.
>It’s all pretty well documented on nazi side as well.
Why do Russoids deny Katyn so bad?
I also wish hitler won so I could have sex
The Red Army won because it was superior, but tbqh if the Germans did fail in winter that's entirely their fault for not preparing. They thought the USSR would crumble in 12 weeks.
In any case the Soviets defeated the 1943 summer offensive rapidly and totally crushed Germany during Bagration in summer 1944. So they were better all around.
Germany was diplomatically isolated because the Nazis were super aggressive with everyone, I'm not sure anyone would have helped us if the SU attacked. But more importantly your plan goes against everything the Nazis believed in.