"Skywalker fired the last shot, that's all. Jyn did everything that mattered."

>"Skywalker fired the last shot, that's all. Jyn did everything that mattered."
Woah, Zig Forums, why didn't you tell Luke was such a bitch?

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luke was the biggest mary sue in history. "oh it just so happens im magical and good at everything for no reason".

while also being a loser that gets knocked out by arabs and called a manlet by the first chick he sees

>NOOOOOOO NOT THE HERO IN MY BABY OUTER SPACE MOVIE

Stop watching Star Wars and grow up, faggot

>Mary Sue
>loses to Sand Jews
>loses to sand niggers
>loses to a friend that doesn’t like him
>loses to floating robot that shoots a laser once a minute
>loses to stormtroopers
>gets called a manlet by his sister whom he has a crush on
>loses to trash compactor tentacle

Sneed fed the last seed, that's all. Chuck did everything that mattered.

/thread

literally how did he lose? Did you even see the movie? he wins in the end.

>"oh it just so happens im magical and good at everything for no reason".
It's not for no reason tho. It's for a very good reason.

The reason is that he literally wasn't good at any of it until some midget in a swamp taught him to be good at magic shit.

>trains once at using the force
>can now fire a precise shot with his eyes closed

>he wins in the end
You do realize that everyone wins in the end in movies, right? That's the fucking point. Die Hard Man wins in the end, that doesn't mean he doesn't spend most of the movie losing. That's the point of a hero, they win in the end. Otherwise they're just another dead nameless asshole.

he literally wins in every movie.

So does Han Solo. Is he a Mary Sue also?

based

Yes, happy endings are overwhelmingly common in film. What's your point?

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so he just gets to win in the end with no effort at all? yeah sounds like a mary sue.

>Jyn did everything that mattered."
For instance, sell her toys for 3 cents.

3. CENTS. That's how much this character is worth.

But nah keep pretending anyone's gonna like her more than Luke.

If I give you this (You), will you be satisfied?

The point is to get you and other anons to reply

>he literally wins in every movie.
Oh yeah, he won super hard in Empire Strikes Back. Really robbed the tension going into ROTJ, honestly, why would they show him beat Vader so easily before their final bout?

Oh wait.

>no effort at all
I see, so you're b8ing.

>sucking your own dick

They aren't satisfied yet? They want to burn it until there's nothing left.

great b8 m8, you got a few bites

We hear this about Luke a lot. There are a few reasons he works much better as a protagonist than Rey, Jyn, or anyone NuWars has shit out.

First, yes, Luke is the magic kid of destiny—the person the good guys need in order to win the deepest possible victory—the MacGuffin personified. Luke is interesting as a person, though, and one reason is because Luke (and we) don't discover he IS the magical MacGuffin until late in "Empire." Up until Yoda and Obi-Wan start trying to argue him out of going to Cloud City we've just thought he was the "hero kid", not much different from Robin Hood or any other little-guy-against-the-big-bad-guys type. And so he gets a much more thorough exploration as a human being, and his "magic guy" qualities have a firmer grounding, before we learn that fact about him.

Second, while he's GOOD at a lot of things, there's also a lot of things he's "good" at that still give him trouble. He was a talented pilot and definitely overperformed at Yavin, but wasn't so good at flying and shooting that he didn't need Han to save his ass at the end of the Death Star run. He never sees the wampa attack coming. He can't just walk wounded on his own all the way back to base through night temperatures on Hoth. He can't land his X-Wing cleanly on Dagobah. He can't blaster his way through Cloud City to bail out Leia, Chewie and Threepio. The Vader fight, well, you saw how well that went. Even in ROTJ, his Plan A goes to shit when it turns out Hutts can no-sell the Obi-Wan mind trick.

Basically, a lot of the situations Luke gets into deprive him of advantages he possesses on paper. Makes for a better story.

Being "good at everything" is not the same as "being excellent at everything." The latter, really, is where you start veering into Sue territory - especially when you have to start watering down the intelligence and abilities of the supporting cast so the Sue can sufficiently dazzle them.

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>he literally wins in every movie.
You are a TLJ writer, aren't you? He doesn't win in the second movie...

it's so good watching manchildren having their precious shitty ip being torn apart by disney and they can't do anything

>and they can't do anything

except watch it lose money and furlough employees, apparently

the funny thing is they needed a map at all to know to target the obvious huge fucking opening in the spaceship