Are they more related to France or Germany? Culturally speaking, of course

Are they more related to France or Germany? Culturally speaking, of course.

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Depends on the language they speak:
Dutch = more culturally dutch
French = more culturally french

Ain't that complicated, amigo.

That wasn´t the point of my question but I do appreciate the Saphir-Whorf route.

The country as a whole is more related to France

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So I guess it is just a coincidence that the Flemish want unification with Netherlands and the Wallonians want unification with France??

Your question doesn't make any sense, but I guess the answer would be: France. Because Belgium has nothing to do with Germany. You should have asked if they are culturally more related to France or Netherlands.

wtf I am french now

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They're a part of us, especially the cultural elite

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France

Of course it doesn't make any sense, I made my question from the ignorance perspective. That's why I wanna know about Belgium but I'm too lazy and drunk to read a whole articule.

And thanks, german bro.

the prosperous north (Flanders) is Dutch
the impoverished south (Wallonia) is French
only a tiny region in the east (Eupen-Malmedy) is German

lol, in that map the entire Flanders is already in France which proves they have nothing to do with the D*tchs.

It is true. Belgium as a whole shares 10 times more history with France than it does with the Netherlands.

The only thing we have in common with the Netherlands, is language, but that is where it stops. We have nothing in common with Germany

Thank you, you're the best and i love you all.

Isn't there a small minority that speaks German? Obviously belgian is more french though

On that map, Flanders (the real one: West flanders) is related to France (and England) while Wallonia is related to Germany.

it has nothing to do with language. People who push that idea have an agenda. One region was rich then fell into post-industrialism while the other part happens to have the second port of Europe.
The antwerp port could be speaking mexican, it wouldn't change a thing.

That was exactly your question, not the germ's fault that you are El Retardo himself

It's "retrasado", "retardo" means "being late". And the thread is closed, thanks for participating.

Yes but everyone forgets about them, but they are very based and live in some of the most comfy villages in Europe

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Belgium has little to do with France, it's its polar opposite in many ways (and yes Wallonia too).
Belgium should be Luxembourgian.

The prosperous north (Flanders) is French
The impoverished south (Wallonia) is German

seething

How am I seething? It's historically accurate

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kek

No, it's technically true.
Traditionally in the "southern Netherlands", there was one city that was considered the gateway to German influence: Liège (or Luttich/Luik). Always part of the HRE.
In the 17th century, there was a murder of a Richelieu agent by agents of the bishop of Liège Ferdinand of Bavaria, it angered the population.
The culprit was gruesomely murdered by the population and there was suddenly a dislike for the germanic rule until the "revolution" which kicked out the prince-bishopic. Even though there was kind of a germanophilia during the Bismarck year, German autists and dumbasses invaded Belgium and imposed anti-Walloon policies (Flamenpolitik) which created, rightfully a complete dislike for Germany.
So, the reason most of Wallonia was rather pro-French was due to fucking German autism and behaviour, and no due to actual history..

political affiliation doesn't mean shit, especially in the middle ages
Walloons are French, Flemish are Dutch
cope more

should I add also, that there was such a thing as "Walloon Prussia" and Frederick the great himself said he was very proud of having a bit of a French speaking region in the Empire.
Until utter retardation from moron Germans who came with their complete ignorance of the low countries, invaded and imposed their "Flemish=germans and Walloons=french lmao derpderp" bullshit.

>Wallonia has only been under French rule for 26 years
>but France is somehow more responsible for its current state than Germany
Yeah I think you're the one who's coping

France and Netherlands.

What about Flanders?

well...that's a pretty good question, actually, considering not all countries where French is spoken are "culturally" french (like...Congo).

Frederick II was a Francophile, that's no secret
didn't stop him from btfo'ing he French at Rossbach tho btw
it's cute how you're trying to paint Walloons as non-French bc they're such an embarrassment, but France proper isn't really better either
just accept that Germanics are superior to you and whatever France touches turns to shit

bitch

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Walloons were really rich up until 100 years ago, so your arguments does not make much sense. Also they built Sweden (yes sweden is made by the walloon bull)

A large part of Flanders' wealth can be attributed to the house of Valois-Burgundy who developed their trade ports. So, French.

yeah bc they were ruled by Austrians and Dutch until then

this completely delusional.
Flanders has literally 700+ years history within France (if you combine 686years under the Kingdom of France+First Republic, Consulat & the Empire).
Hell, Flanders was literally part of France than fucking anyone else lol...

Wallonia, even though French speaking now was only part of France during the First Republic, Consulat & the Empire which barely make less than 30+ years.

What is the point even?
Identity is something that is individual.

I don't have to try and paint them as non-French because they simply aren't. They developed a different identity very early in history and the Walloon language is probably the most Germanic influenced Oïl language, very divergent from standard French. Now if we look at the facts:
>844 years under HRE rule
>315 years under Habsburg rule
>81 years under Prussian rule
>19 years under French rule
Anything else is cope. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

As much as I hate to admit it, you're right. Historical Flanders (West and East flanders) is the only part of historical France that isn't part of todays France.
You're right, I'm EVROPEAN

Walloons are French, however much you cope.
And Wallonia certainly wasn't 81 years under Prussian rule, it was briefly occupied during the Coalition Wars and during the World Wars, that's maybe 10 years altogether