Can someone explain how Indo-European dialects evolved into strictly different language groups? Celtic, Germanic, Baltic all seem to be worlds apart from each other.
Proto-Celto-Germanic maybe? Or else?
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Can someone explain how Indo-European dialects evolved into strictly different language groups? Celtic, Germanic, Baltic all seem to be worlds apart from each other.
Proto-Celto-Germanic maybe? Or else?
Brainlets not welcome
i dont know
>Can someone explain how Indo-European dialects evolved into strictly different language groups? Celtic, Germanic, Baltic all seem to be worlds apart from each other.
They are incredibly similar actually. Your judgement is just clouded by your own Indo-European bias.
Beaker = Probably a Proto-Basque Culture
Corded Wear = Berber Culture, as shown by Berber loan words into proto-Germanic
The Celtic seems to be a midway point between Germanic and Italic originally due to many shared words from both these groups, or it could be and maybe more likely that they just preserved the same words from Indo-European.
1. It is not as strict as you think
2. They were just mostly isolated from each other for a really long time
hol up so you be sayin I'm Printed Cardium Pottery?
Are you a woman?
Divergent evolution, and non-IE substrates
It's not so different if you learn the languages desu.
some user posted about the striking resemblance between Sanskrit and Lithuanian language.
Sanskrit is one of the oldest languages in Indian and considered the language of Gods and related with the ancient origins of Hinduism
Yeah but when you cherry-pick words with same Indo-European root the same word is also usually found in some Persian or Hindi which are nowhere near Europe, so I can't see a closer connection between European languages
Funnily enough Dutch has a surprising amount of Greek words compared to other west european languages.
thats the same if you did it with latin or greek.
they're not if you think about it. for example look at latin "ignis" and sanskrit "agni" for fire, latin "tu" avestan "tu" tocharian "tu" german "du". it's usually the youngest and simplest words that are the most spread out, the older words were the most jealously guarded.
Most indo-european languages are said to come originally from Turkey.
in Scots ingil means fireplace.
>Yeah but when you cherry-pick words with same Indo-European root the same word is also usually found in some Persian or Hindi which are nowhere near Europe, so I can't see a closer connection between European languages
Indo-European languages of the European branch are considered to be so similar they are grouped in one single Sprachbund:
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At least, it's often discussed whether it's from Russia or Turkey. But now they claim Turkey again.
this meme theory pops up every few years but thanks to ancient dna sequencing it's totally obsolete, only a few fossils are holding out with their 1960s methods. the anatolian branch probably split off the earliest. we now even know the indic branch is even closer to the corded ware horizon than previously thought.
You're making a counter-argument by comparing a European language to an Indian one
European branches of Indo-European should be similar to each other, but they are not
Funnily enough German has a surprising amount of non-Indo-European words compared to other Western European languages and linguists to this day have not identified where the mysterious source of this influence is.
sanskrit is indo european
>but they are not
They are see
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There should have been a Proto-European language as a branch of Proto-Indo-European
How?
>scots language not mentioned but flemish is
>Whorf likely consideredRomanceandWest Germanicto form the core of the SAE, i.e. theliterary languagesofEuropewhich have seen substantial cultural influence fromLatinduring themedieval period. TheNorth GermanicandBalto-Slavic languagestend to be more peripheral members.
This is pure bullshit. West Germanic and North Germanic come from the common Proto-Germanic and even modern English, German and Scandinavian languages are extremely similar and worlds apart from Baltic/Slavic languages
>scots language
lol
We don't even consider Flemish a language lol. The difference is pretty much the same as American and British English. The Flemish speak more polite, use longer phrases, different pronunciation and use some different words. But in general it's just a dialect of Dutch.
Yes.
That's my point. Scots is as far from English and English from Scots as Russian and Polish.
Literally like current day's European cultural sphere. Even with Hungary.
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this. The different languages interacted with different pre-indo-european languages which merged to form proto-germanic, proto-celtic etc
>Scots is as far from English and English from Scots as Russian and Polish.
Russian and Polish are more distant than English and German, you literally just proved that Scots is English dialect
So is the question why is like balto-slavic grouped under the European language family instead of separate like indo-iranian?
>1631 A Relation of the Empire and State of Russia written by Captain Thomas Chamberlayne, an Englishman who had served as a soldier in Russia, compared the situation of Poland with Russia to that of Scotland and England and said the Polish tongue is not so much more dividend in Language then the English and the Scotts is.
Lol
balto slav is considered a separate family, there is no european language family
Literally. It even seems that Baltic has more recent ancestor with Indo-Iranian than with Celtic or Germanic
They have common mythology too
>Divine Ashvin twins
>there is no european language family
Why?
Languages actually evolve extremely quickly by nature. Each generation speaks differently. Before nations were formed, there was not writing system and the concept of lingua franca wasn't present, each tribe separated from the others had had to develop their own way of speaking. There wasn't a single unifying force for the languages so their form remained fluent and temporary