Why was she so horrible?

Want to slap the shit out of her this episode

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Deborah was the proto-Karen and Ray got pranked into marrying her.

Ray is the retard oaf who everything works out for while deborah does everything and still gets shit on. She's at least got a reason

Lol this show had the best family dynamic of any sitcom. The in laws and especially Brad Garret were brilliant

I hated that they did that to Marie, at the start she just knew how to play her son sometimes but by the end she was an emotionally manipulative mastermind to literally everyone.

Fuuuuuuucccckkkk
>Makes an agreement
>Agreement is agreed upon that there's no exceptions and agreement is literal
>Can't honour agreement
>Loses her rag with only the sort of self righteousness a woman can conjure up
Made me mad desu.

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Deborah doesn't do shit.
Doesn't have a job.
Uses Marie half the time and complains about Marie the rest.
Can't cook or clean.

She makes lemon chicken bro.

There's also the high school reunion episode where she literally walks off to dance with another man and then makes fun of Ray afterwards.

The is the bitch that is constantly complaining about how Ray never supports her.

I've seen this show several times, and all I ever see is that mama's boy Ray, and his mother marginalizing and treating her like garbage.
On an unrelated note, I'd love to bang her.

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you haven't see enough episodes. If she isn't complaining about Marie, she's taking Marie's side on any issue even if it's against Ray.

She only hates Marie when it's convenient for her.

This. Ray did nothing wrong, absolutely nothing but every single person in the show sucks their teeth and tells him he's in the wrong. Women are the worst.

People say she had a nice body but when she did show any skin it was really blotchy and offputting.

Jealous of her King of Queens counterpart.

Carrie was a keeper.

Except Author came with the deal.

...like a real woman? hate to break it to ya 90 percent women body gets like that

they're both terrible

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I liked the episode where Marie came over and Carrie had no problem dealing with her bullshit

She was hormonal from her pregnancy though wasn't she? Ray should have countered for that.

Carrie is more tolerable. She tended to moan only when Doug actually did something stupid.

She just had this massive blind spot concerning her dad.

She would've blamed him later for denying her wishes. That was a no win situation for him.

Remind me, why is she caked up in makeup like a whore in this pic?

Fair point

Arthur was based

She couldn't get her hair done in time, then got her hair dildo stuck. Literally entirely her fault.

They were going out. I can't remember where. Ray still went out though because AIS.

carrie loved her man
carrie lusted after her man
carrie cooked
carrie wanted him happy

the exact opposite to debra

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She actually was done.

then she saw she still had a minute and decided to fuck around with the curler and got stuck

Carrie went to work AND still came home and cooked

Debra tried getting a job and was fired on her first day.

raymond married a 10/10 woman. she did a lot of shit, but he was still married to a cheerleader prom queen.