How would you cast colonel Kurtz, considering Brando kinda fucked the role?

they did well with what they had, but the fact that he was fat as fuck and didn't cooperate with Coppola damaged the film. they shot improvisations for 3 weeks and used what they could, they didn't really know what they were doing at all

In Hearts of Darkness Coppola rattles off a bunch of names, saying if he can’t get Brando he’ll get Robert Redford, Al Pacino, or Jack Nicholson, in that order. Nicholson would’ve been interesting.

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money hungry. he locked himself in his room to stall filming in order to cash as many checks as possible

He wanted Jor-El to look like a bagel, so he became one.

film would only have been half as good with anyone else

he was too young when they filmed apocalypse now, wouldn't look right with him as an infamous colonel

don't pretend like the end sequence is what makes this movie great

Kurtz being fat and bald fit the role a lot, It made him look like a more powerful consuming force, well capable of leading an rogue unit slash cult following. I felt John Locke from Lost really took after him.

it was around Dirty Harry... I think he could’ve done it

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that fat guy from sopranos

damn you're right, he's been old looking for ages

He doesn't really have that overwhelming gravitas that Brando played. I honestly thinking Brando bringing his noxious attitude to the set enhanced Kurtz.

we should all be happy Lucas didn't get to direct it

I think Brando worked partly because his features (i.e. pretty boy warped by obesity, balding) articulate decay and degeneration. He has “passionate” features - or Mediterranean, slightly feminine - whereas guys like Nicholson, Eastwood, and Redford have more of a Protestant severity about them. Their Kurtz would have to be more about the corrupting influence of power, as opposed to the moral rot from within (both valid but different angles).

Scott had range, bearing, a history of military characters, and would have been an interesting inverted fallen hero.

Redford, I don't think he ever got the chance to invert his military man schtick. Newman may have been good too.

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This is actually bullshit because Brando was a midwestern kraut and not mediterranean at all, anglicized from Brandau. Italian filmmakers picked him to play a patrician med character because they want to see themselves as alpinids and not meds.

Eastwood is only 6 years younger than Brando

>implying big dick brando EVER missed

Kirk Douglas

Someone with penetrating eyes (David Bowie tier) but fit enough to be a passable MACV-SOG/LRRP running recon over the fence in Laos/Cambodia, and enough facility to adequately speak French/native Montagnard lines to the Montagnards under his command. Getting an actual vet from these units for support cast/technical advisors would be kino, they're all about Kurtz age at this point. More emphasis on Kurtz being the reason behind LRRP teams going missing/intel compromise (provoking the mission to kill him), speciffically with the 'Sapper' tactics (light tracker teams stalking the LRRPs, bare naked + a rifle; either creeping up at night or actively herding with two + cracking bamboo sticks together, fucking with them); backdrop of Kurtz being tasked to set up the Phoenix Program behind the lines with Laotian/Cambodian forces:
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>“Any group is weaker than a man alone unless they are perfectly trained to work together.”
>“If you wanted to teach a baby a lesson, would you cut its head off?”
More Willard/Kurtz discursive dialogue in interrogation, Kurtz being modeled a bit more on material in Heinlein's Starship Troopers novel

>Kurtz being fat and bald fit the role a lot
They shot around him well enough to give the impression he was well built, for me at least (hulking shoulders)

>pretty boy warped by obesity, balding
Maybe Russel Crowe or Gerard Butler on that note

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