In this thread, Wizards that don't really do magic

In this thread, Wizards that don't really do magic.

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I haven't read the books. Why does he barely use any magic? Is it because he is more meant to guide the people of Middle Earth than to directly intervene? I'm sure he could have solo'd the entire army of Mordor if he wanted. Heck he could probably have teleported himself with the ring to Mount Doom and dropped it off but that would of course not have united humans

Yes but he can't teleport. Also he uses more magic then you realise. He is constantly casting buff speech on himself.

The last time the Maiar and Valar fought evil directly they accidentally a subcontinent

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>comes back from the dead

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He uses a shit ton of lightning strikes in the Hobbit but in the LotR trilogy magic is a lot more subtle than your typical generic DnD special effects spectacle.
Maigc in LotR is something like resistance against corruption or the cleansing of evil presences and spirits, maybe a purifying stream of light that scares away monsters.

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>I haven't read the books
Good. Don't ever bother.

>Gandalf;_The_White
why wasn't he the villain

He could use some Fortify Speech. The fella stutters like hell

>Jordon Peele’s LOTR: Sauron was really.... Gandalf the White Man

Saruman claimed the position first

people get all their knowledge of fantasy from rpgs now :(

except when he makes that nazgul skedadle

>I am Gandalf, Gandalf the White, but Black is mightier still
What did he mean by this?

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Based literal retard.

Traditionally white is associated with good and black with evil. He's saying he's stronger than before but still not as strong as Sauron.

>traditionally
its more of a universal truth

>Why does he barely use any magic
he's not a human, he's literally an angel god sent to make guide mankind and help to destroy the ring. that's why he comes back as gandalf the white, he convinces god he should be allowed to use more powers and so gets sent back more powerful
as to destroying the ring, maybe, maybe not. he personally says many times it would be a disaster for him to take the ring, as if he fell to it he'd be as bad or worse than sauron, so it's not unlikely he wouldn't be able to destroy it.

as to the amount of magic he uses, the movies actually play it down. there's a fair amount of explosions and spells in the book, like when the hobbits/aragorn are approaching weathertop (can see it, but still a few days off) they see a giant lightning storm over it where he's fighting the nazgul
it's more that tolkien didn't want the focus of the book to be OP magic bullshit and less that gandalf doesn't actually do magic

based

Gandalf uses a firestorm against some Wargs in the book before they go to Moria. It’s the flashiest magic he does in the whole trilogy and it’s odd that Jackson cut such an obvious action scene.

Okay, now explain Tom Bombadil and the eagles.

my god gandalf scenes were kino

Probably because then people would have expectEd fireballs in every battle scene there onwards

they were werewolfs

Eagles owed gandalf a debt, but they wouldnt fly to Orodruin just to get smoked by the nazghul

Tom bombadil was basically a manifestation of an impartial arda, he had no power over the ring, or much concern over mortal affairs

It is an open secret that sun fries the brain and makes you a gesticulating, confrontational monkey. It's not even a racial thing - just look at Italians, Spaniards, Australians... I could go on.

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>books
Fuck off Zig Forums

he wasn't talking about race though, he was literally talking about the colors themselves, are you fucking retarded

friends go crazy of this so... watched the films, barely got through them... started reading the book, got to 100 pages and dropped it out of boredom.

Tommy: the deaf dumb and blind

Tom Bombadil probably sang them some gayass songs for hundreds of years so the eagles really like him

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>explain
in terms of lore or meta meaning?

in lore, tom is just an unknowingly old being that literally nobody knows the deal about. that's his whole deal. as to what he represents, though, I would point to a few things. Primarily, I think tom is a blend of tolkien's love and knowledge of mythology, where ancient powerful being are commonplace, as well as a sort of bridge or gate between youth and maturity. Tom saves the hobbits twice and gives them all sorts of fairytale help (the kind you would expect if you were a kid going on an adventure in your backyard) but that child-like sense of the world, by its own definition, can't be used as a weapon, hence why they don't give the ring to tom- but also, very interestingly, why the ring has no power over tom, because he's innocence and youthful adventure incarnate. that's just my take though, and it's always worth saying lotr is NOT an allegory, meaning that while characters can and do represent things in the real world, they are first and foremost fully fleshed characters in their own story world.

as to eagles, pretty obvious, they're chillax forces for good but also separated from the lower world. they help gandalf a lot cause they're bros (come to help in hobbit twice, save him from top of orthanc and drop him in rohan, pick him up after he kills the balrog and takes him to lorien, and come to help at the morannon) but outside of that they're mostly just concerned with their own affairs.
asking why they don't help more is like asking why normal people don't go to help out the eagles more, it's just silly. and in terms of flying them to mordor (the fact they would just get shot by arrows aside) the eagles can't carry people very far at all, the biggest and toughest of the eagles can only carry gandalf, a small old man, a few dozen miles

Then why do priests wear black?