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Reminder to watch more Polish and Czch cinema so we can make charts for those

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I didn't view the end as solely metaphorical I thought it was about smashing the Americanization of Korea. I mean Fitzgerald, Hemingway, and Faulker are mentioned at length, Ben was played by a Korean-American, and Jong-su mentioned how there's lots of Gatsbys in Korea. Two other things of note are the North Korean propaganda scenes, and Jong-su's relationship with his father, and also a Donald Trump speech is shown in the film about bringing back jobs to America. I think the film was a very harsh expression at a certain of emptiness felt by youth in modern life, how the preceeding generation utterly failed them, and how the only solution at some level is inevitable violence. I think it shows dark times ahead, and how people are getting sick of being viewed as weak or expendable, Ben was ultimately a slave to his circumstances as well. Notice the contrast with him and his family and away from his family. I thought the girl's entire character was depression, as she was considered an expendable mistake by others. So, instead of Joon-ho's Parasite, with it's 'muh socialism,' I think Burning takes those ideas to a second and third level.

I really forgot how dark that film was. For some reason I have it set in my mind Poetry was definitively better, but that, Burning, and the two latest Zvyganistev's films were powerful expressions, although Zvyganistev appears to be somewhat of a Russian SJW, which is mainly just criticizing modern Russia for being a corporation. I don't know enough about Russian politics, to really say if this is accurate, especially in Loveless, but they were definitely very interesing films IMO. I should see Elena soon as well.

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I personally did not walk away with anything similar to this interpretation but I respect it. Because Burning is so ambiguous and purposfully made to have lots of interpretations I stuck to as surface level a reading as I could in order to try and cement everything that we can say is objective. So while I also came up with a half a dozen theories, I am sticking with the most objective reading of the film that is presented. It is simply a story of individuals and the meaning of life, how the meaning of life applies and or reflects where they were thrown in life. And in that framework we have intersections of class and caste. Even though caste is an Indian concept and tradition the concept of it can certainly be applied to most western countries as well. This is represented most obviously through the love story. Love becomes an issue of class, status, and power as we see Hae-mi choose Ben over Jong Su. Even the cat being named Boil I feel is an intentional metaphor to this theme, as the film is about all of these aforementioned aspects of society boiling to the surface, burning Jong Su and Hae-mi's personalities and any dreams they might have.

I just cannot believe fucking Parasite is the film people are championing as one of the great protest films of the decade instead of Burning. Burning says so much more and is a sublime work of art, Parasite is commercial entertainment meant for the masses. I cannot believe even a somewhat respectable institution like Cannes even fell for the meme. The state of modern canonization is fucking sad.

how you should behave if you believe in the kino

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Parasite is like a blockbuster film and idk wtf happened at Cannes either, maybe an Asian cinema agenda.

>I just cannot believe fucking Parasite is the film people are championing
It's a popcorn flick in Korean to make midwits and casual cinema goers feel smart. Burning is a slow serious meditation on life and society. Of course, people like the former.
Ask anyone who Albert Serra is and they'll look at you blankly.

What are essential Korean films to watch?

I haven't bothered to update that take from 2019, my original take was leaning more on the metaphorical side, after delving deeper into Chang-dong, I've began to uncover more ways to resonate with the films. The dissolving effect Americanization has on the Korean culture is palpable in the film no doubt, this was touched on when talking about Secret Sunshine. I also agree on the malaise of ennui the youth are predisposed to, the "magic hour" scenery absolutely nails that feeling. About the violent confrontations, I'm not sure if Chang-dong is predicting this, or projecting this. After all, all three share the same feeling of dissatisfaction, it doesn't discriminate. The way people higher on the social hierarchy look upon the people below them, will always create tension points. I've felt that what Jong-su felt when interacting with Ben, a feeling of knowing that when it comes to the hierarchical structure most people adhere to, you are seen as less. I wouldn't turn against a person like that in any capacity, it's alienating on both sides. That's why I'd say it's more Chang-dong's resentment at Americanization than tension points erupting.
The girl did exhibit signs of depression, talks of wanting to disappear, latching onto a mystical explanation (the great hunger) for her state of dissatisfaction in the city. A metaphorical way this was conveyed, only a brief ray of sunlight that makes it into her room. Though I don't really feel like depression is what she embodies wholly, it's a part of her sure, but not her whole being. Now that I think about it, if Ben is the "western" influence in SK, Jong-su who lives right at the border, could be North Korea and Hae-mi South Korea. Just an thought, Chang-dong's wishes for both NK and SK to unite and be independent from the West?
>Poetry was definitively better
I still haven't seen it, today I watched Pasolini's The Gospel According to St. Matthew instead of Poetry like I promised yesterday.

All 6 of Chang-dong Lee's films: Green Ray, Peppermint Candy, Oasis, Secret Sunshine, Poetry, Burning)

Why has Bohdi-Dharma left from the East?

The Hong Sang-soo films (Right Now Wrong Then, Woman on the Beach, etc.)

Im Kwon-taek: Mandala, Seopyeonje, Chunhyang... He directed 102 films though

A Tale of Two Sisters, I Saw the Devil

Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter… and Spring, 3-Iron, The Isle

Housemaid, Lo Island

Bong Joon-ho (overrated, but still essential to Korean cinema): Mother, Host, Memories of Murder, Okja, Snowpiercer, Barking Dogs, Parasite

Park (same as above): Old Boy, Mr. Vengenance, Lady Vengenance, Thirst, Handmaiden

thanks user, is the handmaiden good or just coomer movie?

What did I think of it?

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just coomer

i like it had a enjoyable story and eautiful shots.

Maureen O'hara is great too and John Wayne is John Wayne.

pleb reporting in, I watched El Sur because one of you recommended it and was wondering what other movies are like this, both the way it looks and the tone/content.

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Quick lets make soviet/polish/iranian charts while the americans are busy watching the elections

add Czech, Italian and Spanish too, alongside with Mexican, Portuguese and English/UK charts.

movie kinda sucked desu but Brando was out of this world

Please rec me some impressionistic kinos

Let's do a polish one right now

1. Dekalog
2. Possession
3. On the silver globe
4. Sexmission
5. The deluge
6. O bi o ba
7. The devil
8-10. ashes and diamonds trilogy

If dekalog or possession don't count replace them with Mother joan of the angels and interrogation

What are some good /film/ TV series and miniseries? I already Berlin Alexanderplatz, Out 1, Dekalog and I, Claudius lined up.

17 moments of spring
The meeting place cannot be changed
Soviet sherlock holmes
Soviet war and peace
The prisoner
The kingdom
Once upon a time there was a country
Fanny and alexander
Scenes from a marriage
Eight hours don't make a day

Not sure if they count as movies or series but siberiade, world on a wire and mysteries of lisbon as well