Saw logic

>you are a man whose hatred for the drunk driver who killed your son has consumed you, you are a man of vengeance and now I want to play a game
? Why wouldnt you punish the drunk drivers and not the people angry about the drink drivers ? Wtf?

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He's not trying to punish anybody. Jigsaw is just trying to help people understand that there are more important things in life all while upholding the letter of the law.

>the negative electron forces, officer?

Drunk driving isn't a crime if you don't crash. Who is the govt to tell me I'm 'fit' to drive or not. It is YOUR responsibility to take care on the roads. Your safety is not MY responsibility.

And I drive drunk just fine. I been drunk driving all my life and ill never fucking stop.

Jesus. What kind of sick fuck would give a newborn alcohol and put it in the driver's seat like that?

>96% victim death rate
Yeah i dont think anyone can appreciate life if theyre dead

What was Zep's fault again?

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He had a shit life. Instead of trying to improve it, he would just be jealous of others.

>puts scrawny 5'4" nurse who was vaguely sad in a competitive trap with a ham planet
>tells them their challenge is to cut a certain amount of weight off their body and drop it on some scales
>somehow views this as a totally fair challenge
>somehow still claims that his traps are all survivable if you do them right

bro someone had to lose and the loser just fucking died? how was it survivable?

Just rewatched the first film a few weeks ago. Come to think about it Zep seems a little too eager about his 'pretending' to kidnap the surgeon's wife and daughter.

She did beat the ham planet though. Just because both victims can’t survive doesn’t mean it’s not survivable

Ok but then its just flat out murder, which completely defeats the point of "Oh well he's not really a murderer". What life lesson does the loser learn?

If i put a gun to your head its survivable, but its still attempted murder

The whole anti murderer thing was more to setup the plot twist of Saw 3 and now people have read too far into the pathos of Jigsaw which has always been illogical and not well enough planned/written. Alot of Jigsaw's traps wouldnt be entertaining if they conformed to a rigid and pure version of his rules but obviously you would make a movie more enjoyable than make its own logic more sound

>The charges officer?

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Jigsaw is insane.
Holy fuck.

Crazy how he never did anything illegal
I was in shock when my lawyer friend told me that. Guys a genius, has to be said

>user, for too long you have sat on your computer chair, eating hot pockets, and calling me a faggot on the internet. This has gone on for long enough. The only thing stopping you from leaving this pit... is yourself
post traps.

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My favorite Saw scene
youtu.be/zTs-KQkmOgQ

>kidnap
>drug
>cut people open to hide objects inside
>poison
>set up lethal traps
I never understood the "he does legal things" meme

>What life lesson does the loser learn?
They learn not to lose.

>You have to understand that if something terrible happened to you I'm gonna make something even more terrible happen to you
>You seek revenge for something that was done to you so I'm gonna avenge the person you're trying to get revenge from
Is Saw the Xzibit of the goreporn?

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Life has a 100% death rate. Sounds like Jigsaw is doing pretty good for the ones that make it

can't you do this

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You think you can crawl up on all that shit if you're too fat to get up a rope?

forgot about that whoops

The drunk driver lived life to the fullest. He didn't waste it on futile anger.

The loser lost because he didn’t have a will to survive. The ham planet could have easily cut of his leg and get a free win, but he decided that pieces of his belly fat would be enough.

I'd just pee into it

>Why wouldnt you punish the drunk drivers
>Being locked in one of the most painful traps with the victim’s vengeful father being the only one who can free you.
How is this not a punishment?

>You're depressed after your son was killed by a drunk driver and your wife is cheating on you
>You're a cop and you're willing to risk your life to save other people's lives
>YOU DON'T APPRECIATE LIFE ENOUGH

>Who is the govt to tell me I'm 'fit' to drive or not
you're using their roads

Yep. he wants them to get a new perspective worth understanding life.

He's basically a horror version of this scene:
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Yeah he's retarded