Landlords don't work proof me wrong

>Muh property maintenance
All homeowners need to do this, however a person living in his own house doesn't get paid for it.
>I worked to get enough money to buy this extra house
And? You're still not working while renting out. If i gambled 100k in the casino and win another 100k did i work for the latter? Not really., you just won it at someone else his expense
>I'm taking risk
So do i when i buy stocks or gamble at the casino. If i make flip a shitcoin did i provide a useful service or good to society? not really. It's why shitcoin owners are called NEETS and the same applies to landlords.

>I provide a service!! otherwise you'd be homeless
It's the other way around really, landlord make housing ridiculously expensive and make people homeless.

>Haha eat shit your poor and i'm rich, fuck off commie

I'm perfectly fine with this, as long as you acknowledge that you're no better then the NEET or a weed smoking hippie. Just a leech on society.

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> comparing winning in casino with actual work
user, I

i hope you dont mind me asking but do you look like the guy in this picture?

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The alternative is more government control. Your type is more cancerous to society than landlords. You really think the government would be on your side if we give them control over the housing market? No. Your type just wants everyone to live in a cube like Russians because your envious rage causes you to think like a democrat cuck.

Too true. It's just like all these people "working" in "financial services". Unless you are lifting things >50% of your body weight you are not working. Imagine sitting in an office all day, pushing papers and putting numbers in spreadsheets, thinking that you are "working". Real work involves sweat, you pussies. Landlords are just leeches, they hardly ever have to lift heavy objects!

This troll was boring and played out last week. Fuck off, fatty.

This. Look at how the government provides housing. The state of America's housing projects is abysmal.

should have not fallen for that trade meme, user.

>muh evil landlords
>muh commie parasites
Some landlords deserve to get paid while others are greedy as fuck and deserve a middle finger. It depends on the case.
Now fuck off with your generalizations

>It's the other way around really, landlord make housing ridiculously expensive and make people homeless.
So much this. Not saying there aren't situations where you may want to rent instead of buy (just moved to a place, work is precarious and might dry up soon, etc) but for the most part people are renting not because they want to but because every boomer owns two investment properties on the side so property supply is basically nil and prices are 2-3x inflated relative to median income versus most of the 20th century.

It is like if I bought all the milk cows in the country and charged $10 a gallon and argued I'm the good guy because people want milk and I'm here to provide. Scammy BS.

If it's so easy why don't you become a landlord?

Work is just trading time for money faggot. Since the landlord is just gambling with the banks money and collecting a spread on rent vs holding costs, he is not "working". Sure he might spend 2 hours a month changing a lightbulb or calling contractors to do work for him, but that's almost zero work. He's just helping the bank to leech off deposits through fractional reserve banking, and the Fed (banking cartel) uses policy to protect his assets so he can more easily extort depositors (aka mostly working people lending to the bank).

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18-30 save for a house living with parents

in that time you certainly would get promotions which means you would be making over minimum. Buying a house on shit wages now takes 10 or so years instead of 5. boo fucking whoo would you rather live in a mudhut in africa?

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If you do not pay what you LEGALLY agreed to, you will be evicted and a lean placed on all future wages. That includes unemployment checks.
You can't just ignore debt and expect it to go away.
I worked my ass off to buy a 2nd house
I rent it for super cheap because I know rent can be hard to pay.
You will have destroyed credit and won't be able to rent from any decent areas for years afterwards.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
>Inb4 forclosed
I have enough money saved to pay both mortgages for 18 months so it's not a problem.

On shit wage it is impossible to buy housing as u have expanses

>Muh property maintenance
Never heard of a single landlord in the entire country actually doing that. Many reports of literal roof literally falling on the tenants' heads and such as well.
>I'm taking risk
Hasn't gone down even a pip in 40 years in this country. Even in 2008, nothing. Right now sales are down a whopping 70%, yet nothing. No change in rent or sell prices at all even with all the abnb busts.

What is the alternative?

Laws restricting or preventing ownership of multiple houses per household. You still get construction since it's still profitable. You still get salespeople since it's still profitable. But now the supply and demand is no longer artificially gimped by landjews and people can actually afford houses like they used to instead of using them as investment vehicles.
Alternatively you can allow people to own all the houses but have a very large non-occupancy and forbid renting.

Prove yourself right and make some of that work free money then

What if I do deadlifts while daytrading?

what about apartment building/complexes?
It makes sense for houses but i can't see limits like that working for dense urban centers

Apartment buildings/complexes are the biggest reason why everything's so expensive. Instead of building a house, they build apartments so there aren't any houses left. Since it's so profitable by sqft, they even build them and earmark them for investors only (no purchase for occupancy allowed) nowadays. Townhouses are fine but apartment buildings are the devil.

lmao there goes your argument
they are a necessarily evil and without them cities wouldn't exist

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>I provide a service!! otherwise you'd be homeless
It's the other way around really, landlord make housing ridiculously expensive and make people homeless.
This is the part of your post that was correct. If everyone only owned one home then homes would be extremely affordable. Because we have landlords buying up insane amounts of properties and then renting them, there is less property available for people who own 0 homes. Thus the price of owning your own home goes up as each landlord gets more property to rent out to you.

as someone living in an apartment right now I'd be more than happy to find an alternative to shilling out $900 a month to my landlord. When I moved in the fuckers hadn't even looked at the place and it was dirty as shit with the walls all scuffed up and mold in the fridge/bathroom
back to my question, what is a realistic alternative to large scale apartment complexes?

The fact is that most of the supply/demand dynamics are artificial. There are virtually no actual lack of land for residential housing, and commercial can absolutely be held in office skyscrapers to save more space for this. Townhouses downtown, full houses elsewhere. Make smaller houses if you need to. Even japan can afford to do this.

To be extra-clear: zoning laws are the main 'b-but muh land' excuse, and those are jewish inventions by, you guessed it, landjews, to drive up the price of land.

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yea zoning laws are fucked and only getting worse can't argue with that. but I still don't see townhouses replacing sky-scrapers. its not just about having land, people value being in proximity to cities and will pay a premium for location
to eliminate that and totally restructure the housing market would have huge implications across the board (for the better desu)
but it is pointless to discuss unless there are realizable steps to take in the right the direction

And unions. Look up what unions do to construction costs in NYC.

But mostly zoning codes. Lots of NIMBY cartel protectionism. Fuck em.