>Tbtc >Arguably most hyped project in space aiming to bring btc to eth in noncustodial way >Makes every btc maxi seething and eth maxi drooling because it steals btc economical bandwidth >used custom oracle solution and boosted they "built something robust as Cahinlink in 2mnutes" >12m to build project ground up >6 weeks of audits of tbtc >launch 48h ago >shuted down mainnet after 48h because oracle exploit detected
so far only chainlink lost money due to bugs, not tbtc. They're using maker oracle which is the most used oracle on ethereum. You pulled an "oracle exploit" from your ass.
>you claimed they used a 'custom oracle solution' when they used maker feeds. Protip: they're using both.
Zachary Thompson
This whole project is about bridging two different chains. Whatever went wrong, it fits within the scope of the "oracle problem".
Jace Hill
lol no, the whole point is to have a decentralized system, not trust someone about the state of bitcoin blockchain. The only place they use oracles is to get the ethbtc rate for collateral of key holders, but once the system grows large enough, it can be removed and use the tbtc/eth rate from uniswap2 directly
Robert Richardson
Maker feed is "custom oracle solution" you mongo also they dont just pull feed there is twist how they import it in blocks ALSO THIS Whole fucking project is basically excersise in oracles...
>lol no, the whole point is to have a decentralized system, not trust someone about the state of bitcoin blockchain. Please do explain how this changes what I said you absolute dimwit.
What the fuck even is tBTC? just a 1:1 erc-20 token peg to BTC?
Ryan Ortiz
>Please do explain how this changes what I said Relying on chainlink would make the system centralized, as oracles could lie about the state of the bitcoin blockchain and emit empty tbtc. >You're a moron lmaooooo >uniswap.org/blog/uniswap-v2/#price-oracles >Uniswap V2 implements new functionality that enables highly decentralized and manipulation-resistant on-chain price feeds Did you read your own link?
Christopher Green
>The only place they use oracles is to get the ethbtc rate for collateral of key holders thats the whole point lol btc/eth real world pegg on chain >t can be removed and use the tbtc/eth rate from uniswap2 directly Also uniswap begs project to not use it as oracle for apparent reason but hey Yes but this one suposed to be first noncustodial which is pretty big deal if they get they shit togeather and just use link
Levi Green
It's like you are trying to act smart and better than everything.
But then everything you type is retarded.
Are you Matt Luongo or Ric Burton?
Matthew Baker
Impersonators are bullish
Brandon Russell
>Also uniswap begs project to not use it as oracle for apparent reason but hey which is why I wrote "uniswap2". >just use link Link is extremely unsafe and centralized. blog.chain.link/improving-and-decentralizing-chainlinks-feature-release-and-network-upgrade-process/ >The human error occurred while seeking to improve the XAG/USD network by releasing additional data reliability features requiring an update to the smart contract’s configuration about the specific job IDs being run by node operators servicing the XAG/USD oracle network, leading them to incorrectly request a gold price (XAU) instead of the silver price (XAG). Nobody would trust tbtc if it relied on link, except for link holders of course. Someone at chainlink could steal everything with just one update. WBtc would be way safer.
Nathan Lee
>Relying on chainlink would make the system centralized, as oracles could lie about the state of the bitcoin blockchain and emit empty tbtc. Oracles "can lie", which is why tbtc relies on oracles. lmao
>Did you read your own link? Oracles "can lie", so they're using Uniswap V2 which uses oracles.
>Oracles "can lie", which is why tbtc relies on oracles. Maker feed is the most decentralized, as there's no single party that can just take over, like in chainlink. >they're using Uniswap V2 which uses oracles. Uniswap doesn't "use" oracles. Do you even know what uniswap is? V2 adds a function to compute moving averages for on-chain trades.
Anthony Lewis
Listen Matt time to let it go NOTHING you tiped makes sense
Wait reprot tommorow, wrap your head around whole thing is one big oracle problem than come back here and apologize so sergery
I'm not Matt. Btw please keep attacking him on twitter while promoting link. It's the greatest possible negative marketing for any ethereum dev. Bugs happen and nobody wants anything to do with a community that uses it as an excuse for attack.
And no, tbtc is not an oracle problem. It can eventually work without any external oracle. That's the whole point.
Brody Thompson
>Maker feed is the most decentralized But you said "oracles can lie".
>Uniswap doesn't "use" oracles. No, it IS a fucking oracle.
Benjamin Cooper
Just buy UND user. Literally the next Stratis-esque 50x is right in front of you at a $1M cap.
Zachary Lee
>nobody wants anything to do with a community that uses it as an excuse for attack. Right, and what excuse did Matt have for attacking Chainlink?
Christopher White
>But you said "oracles can lie". I also wrote that using the ethbtc feed is a temporary solution until uniswap2 can be used for tbtc/eth feed. Replacing verification of bitcoin blocks with a chainlink oracle wouldn't be temporary, it would make the system dependent on chainlink forever. >No, it IS a fucking oracle. It's a contract on ethereum. An oracle is something external. Arguing over the definition of an oracle makes no sense in any case. I don't know the context of what he wrote, but chainlink is a centralized scam. Devs can change the configuration of any feed, giving them absolute control over the system. That's a fact confirmed on their own site. It didn't even have multisig before the mistake.
Justin Jones
>Maker feed is the most decentralized This is precious, Maker uses "secret" price feeds, the identities of which are known only to like two top people at Maker. This is a whole dimension worse than KYC: it's private KYC.
Not only that, but Chainlink also outperformed Maker's oracle in the March gas crisis. See pic.