So I've sent a transaction on Samourai Wallet to an exchange but I've accidentally set the miner fee to 1 SAT / Byte and I'm royally screwed because I didn't have RBF enabled on the transaction and CPFP is not an option as there's no change.
I've already tried importing the private keys into electrum and trying to double spend but no server will allow that.
Surely my transaction cannot be stuck in limbo in the mempool, if you have legit advice and actually help me I'll send you $25.
Technically speaking it actually could be practically if the fucking miner fees never go back down but I think I read somewhere that stuff gets pruned after 2 weeks in the mempool, I'm just looking for a faster solution
Samuel Roberts
You couldn't double spend with a higher fee yet it's unconfirmed? Maybe try a different wallet than electrum
Adrian Watson
I almost never send BTC but with ETH I know I can just use the same nonce with a higher fee
Jaxson Ortiz
wow fees are high, 1 say / byte woulda gone through within a day in december
anyho it's weird you can't increase the fee in electrum, it's suppsoed to work. you're sure you're trying it correctly?
Bitcoin is unironically dead to normies because of this post don't use anything but LOKI from now on seriously man you couldn't figure out RBF and CPFP?
Kayden Long
Yeah I've seen the same, you've basically sent it media mail bro, it should get there but not timely at all.
Samuel Ortiz
Doesnt let you even signed a transaction and tried to broadcast the double spend but no servers accept it
RBF was no enabled on the transaction cause I'm a clown so no I cant just increase the fee, CPFP does not work either since theres no change.
If im not mistaken theres a possibility theres some clown node that keeps relaying it to everyone so it gets trapped in the mempool indefinitely until everyone drops that transaction somehow? IDK not technically knowledgable and talking out of my ass at this point
>cannot figure out rbf cpfp what the fuck I just said thats not an option did you not read the op at all
Jose Lee
if you sent without rbf you can only do a traditional double spend.
Michael Allen
fortunately, normies aren't needed for the real bull to start off
try purging the transaction from your wallet, and do a rescan (the wallet rebuilds your balance from the blockchain) then you can spend the amount again, and if the fees are appropriate it will get mined. i only know how to do this with bitcoin core maybe you could export your private keys to an other wallet software...
Isaiah Campbell
>no servers accept it that's weird i had no problem doing the same
Jack Ward
No I dint read the OP's post I literally came here just to shit on Boomer coin and shill my favorite Marvel coin LOKI
Austin Cooper
look i've never personally had this issue, but transactions shouldn't need to enable anything for the fee to be replacable. at least the way it worked in 2017 was that nobody cared about previously filed transactions, if you filed a brand new transaction with a higher fee then miners just included it and ignored the previous one. maybe segwit changed that? but i don't think so.
try a wallet that lets you create & sign bitcoin transactions offline?
Chase Foster
>If im not mistaken theres a possibility theres some clown node that keeps relaying it to everyone so it gets trapped in the mempool indefinitely until everyone drops that transaction somehow? you know why i love this shit? because cashies love to rant about "bitcoin core has no first seen rule hurr durr" when we tell them if they don't like rbf then turn it off.
Ayden Turner
no it's just the basic mechanism for nodes is to only relay the first transaction until they have it in the mempool. if you purge the tx from your own wallet it should clear out of the network. your sped will be flagged as double spend on the explorers tho if you use no rbf of cpfp.
Xavier Gray
Technically ive tried this, so what I did was import the private keys I used in the transaction on my mobile wallet (samourai) then signed a transaction offline by purging the transaction history on electrum, I get the .tx file or whatever and try to broadcast this new transaction with a different empty wallet but no luck, I get an error cause the server rejects it or some shit, and yes it is a bech32 address.
any suggestions for wallets on pc other than electrum that I could try?
after my experience RBF should be forced on all wallets with no option to disable to stop accidents like mine happening
here. you can decode a raw transaction and see what's wrong with it
Austin Anderson
wont let me broadcast on blockchain.info gives the same error message as electrum(txn-mempool-conflict) and just a web 500 error for blockcypher, decode transaction works fine nothing wrong with it, just cant broadcast
well this sucks lol. never had this problem but always thought if i did it would just be a matter of re-broadcast. looks like you may have to wait that 72 hrs. keep bumping tho maybe someone been thru this and knows a solution.
Leo Hughes
thanks for trying to help m8, just trying random electrum servers to see if one miraculously lets me double spend
i have over 30,000 USD In crypto and i have no clue what any of this means can someone give me a quick guide on getting up to speed?
Jackson Phillips
Qrd: BTC is shit, it costs sometimes a $5, $10, maybe more fee just to get near the front of the line for a miner to include your transaction on the chain, if you send a tx with too low of fee it can get stuck for days or weeks before its dropped from the network and thus spend able again.
Andrew Rivera
Welp turns out my transaction left the mempool as 3 days are up, thought it was 14 days so case solved, it's a shame I kinda wanted to see what viable options there were
Blake Morris
Jesus dude you need to at least know what the fk you're putting your money in, read the white paper first on bitcoin.org then just play around with $50 understanding how it all works, download a bunch of wallets send transactions everywhere test all the features etc..
Chase Cooper
i get the idea of block size congestion and fees increasing due to that, and i sort of get mem pool congestion, but no clue on the RBF and CPFP
Nathan Cox
>read the white paper first on bitcoin.org then just play around with $50 understanding how it all works, download a bunch of wallets send transactions everywhere test all the features etc. jesus can you imagine a more beta approach to investing
just understand how bitcoin is future world reserve asset, get a hardware wallet and don't bother with the rest, the technology will change, the fundamentals won't.
Julian Allen
Ln solves all of this if it becomes commercial, and your examples a bit crude but kind of true, never theless it's more robust and cheaper than any bank to transfer 10mil and quicker too.
Adam Hill
>days or weeks before its dropped from the network and thus spend able again. this part was new to me i guess it somehow locks up one of the UTXO's in the wallet and prevents it from being spent in that way? again still very noobish on the technical stuff and would enjoy learning
Michael Howard
Jokes aside from this memer he's kinda telling the truth, I'm trying to learn every bip I can but it's very difficult if you don't have an advanced mathmatics or cs degree. I love this website
Rbf stands for replace by fee, essentially what it is is a double spend with higher fees, for example if rbf is set to true in a transaction you can dynamically change the miner fee at any time by rebroad casting whilst not technically flagging yourself as a malicious double spender. Cpfp stands for child pays for parent, essentially if you have change in a transaction that gets sent to your own address that's unconfirmed you can speed it up because of how miners prioritize fees as they look down a chain of transactions and how they're related