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uh this is a huge topic. the game is very complex and goes very deep.

Idk i just open up my range as my stack grows and reduce it as it shrinks. Fundamentally just an odds game once youre past the begginner stage and know the stats.

Online low-mid level tournament crusher reporting in. Doubled my LINk stack recently. Ama

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I like playing with friends. Played party poker back in the day. Recommendations for online games and tournies?

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Personally I put the majority of my winnings in dividend bearing stocks
The game is exciting and a smarter gamble than stocks if you know what you're doing
I've been using blockchain . poker for like the past year. Traffic and money has spiked a lot because of the casino shut down

Read these:

amazon.com/Theory-Poker-Professional-Player-Teaches/dp/1880685000

amazon.com/Caros-Book-Poker-Tells-Mike-ebook/dp/B006305OHA/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=caro's tells&qid=1590343147&s=books&sr=1-1

Books are outdated, maybe buy one or two, buy a subscription to one of the many trainingsites (depends on which gametype u specialize on) and once ur a bit more serious buy an equilibrium solver

Then, maybe then, ur as good as all the sergeys, igors and dmitries from eastern europe
Oh by the way, they also datamined your tendencies befire u even played them specifiaclly

Oh u made money? Have fun with all the fees and possible taxes too? Live in a ringfenced country? Never mind, no money for u

Position in the most important aspect of the game especially in cash. Play tight under the gun and loosen up towards the button. Being last to act is a massive advantage. Table selection is probably next, don’t play a game you can’t beat.

>Books are outdated, buy a subscription to one of the many trainingsites
>Play tight under the gun and loosen up towards the button.
Both of these fuckwits will get rekt in actual poker.

>Oh by the way, they also datamined your tendencies befire u even played them specifiaclly
You're not playing online poker if you aren't datamining the other player's tendencies. You're just the fish providing the profits that thinks he's playing.

>datamining the other player's tendencies

Capable players don't have identifiable tendencies in cash games. They all behave roughly the same way.

so how do you actually become good at poker?
how is it not just pure chance?
how can you actually earn money, how do you become "smarter" than other people who also want to do the same thing?

According to my HUD I’ve been losing the most money in BB and EP so I need to adjust this. Easy to get bluffed off the pot when you’re first to act

it’s not 100% chance, there is some skill since you’ve got to know when to hold em

>Capable players don't have identifiable tendencies in cash games.
False

>in cash games
>tournaments don't exist
>Capable players don't have identifiable tendencies
>it isn't useful to know if you're playing a capable player or a fish

>so how do you actually become good at poker?

Good poker players usually have a high level of mathematical ability. They can solve problems quickly. They often have at least undergraduate study in math or computer sciences. Often they have had employment in finance or would have become actuaries if they have the patience.

>how is it not just pure chance?

It is part chance part skill. Everyone gets the same luck but others have more skill, so those players are successful.

>how can you actually earn money

You don't. If you are gambling for a living poker was the thing to be doing 10-15 years ago but it is not lucrative any more. There is just not the army of crap players bringing a constant inflow of cash into the poker market for the good players to feed on.

Even a very good poker player is earning a crap hourly wage doing a miserable job sat in front of a screen, working unsociable hours. The notional appeal is sat there earning money without any talent, when you look underneath that it is just raw ego.

my story is that i tried to play at age 18-19 (3 years ago) and even bought a course on 6 man sitngos from rye. i tried to learn for real and played at the lowest level but burnt through my bankroll pretty quickly, maybe the sample size wasnt enough but actually i wasnt sure about a lot of decisions so i just kinda gave up. so maybe i'm biased but i think it's not a great way to have fun and make money because to make money you have to play really boring, all risks are calculated, you cant just "go for it" or "feel a read" which is all the fun. so you have to take all of that out of it and in the end of the day you may still lose over a long time frame because of variance. so yeah, probably not going to start again.

i failed high school maths and almost had to repeat the whole year, but have been playing poker professionally for 13 years, has almost nothing to do with maths, or if it does its ultra basic

>have been playing poker professionally for 13 years

Please tell us more.

>so how do you actually become good at poker?
>how is it not just pure chance?
>how can you actually earn money, how do you become "smarter" than other people who also want to do the same thing?
First you have to understand the math and the pot odds, which is why I posted the Sklansky book.
There are times it makes statistical sense to bet. The odds are in your favor, and times it makes statistical sense to fold. With consistent application and enough time, you churn a statistical profit.
In-person poker makes it easier, as you can evaluate the other player for tells, and increase your statistical return, which is why I posted Caro's book on Tells.
Tournaments also have their own strategy for when to hit the accelerator, and when to pump the brakes.
I actually think both books contain invaluable knowledge applicable to life and business in general.

what if everyone learns these odds, tricks, tactics, and shit and acts the same?
then what?

TNG has the most kino ending to any show ever

Seems like the final table of a professional tournament does come down to a large degree of luck, as they are all mostly experts.
Making the money cut, or the final table to begin wtih, or with regularity, requires skill.
Mastery of the numbers still requires teh intangible skill of reading other players.
Doyle Brunson speculated that ESP was real, and top poker players were a tad bit psychic.

Also to your point, Phil Helmuth is famously quoted to say that "of course there's luck in poker, otherwise I'd win every time."
Doesn't mean there isn't a shitload of money to make playing against non-experts. Sharks don't feed on each other.

>what if everyone learns these odds, tricks, tactics, and shit and acts the same?

If the minimum standard of player is quite high then you are not going to be able to chop people up. Even winning players would win slowly at a rate likely too slow to beat the combined rake.

Imagine an ecosystem without weak or young animals. The lions starve.

Real money is in live poker. You can easily make 50-100/hr. Currently making 5/hr online, but, once coronas over, I can get back to it. I use online to refine my game for live play. The skill level difference is amazing!

You can't beat online sngs anymore, they are all bots

If you find yourself up against Teddy KGB, and it's too difficult and timeconsuming to turn a profit becuase he's too good, and your game has devolved down to luck, then cut ties and play against easier prey.
However, if you want to play for three stacks of High Society, Teddy KGB may be the only guy in town willing to play for that much.