Is manufacturing job gonna be coming back to US?

Is manufacturing job gonna be coming back to US?
US is decoupling from China for all reasons and domestic unemployment rate is higher than ever, what's a better time to do so?

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trump is pandering to his white nigger voting base. manufacturing won't come back because it would cost too much. industrial machinery is insanely expensive, and the cost of american labor is so great that the products would double or triple in price.

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>yeah you're right, innovation is hard and it's more fair to just let those poor third worlders make some money too :)

Get fucked, manufacturing jobs are coming back whether you like it or not. Will things cost more? Sure, at first. But AI/automation will allow them to eventually be produced cheaper in the US than abroad. And for every job brought back stateside 10-100 chinese slaves are replaced with an American middle class person supporting American middle class a family.

remind me again how automating jobs benefits the american middle class, even ignoring that the products will likely cost more due to higher energy/raw materials costs in the USA versus some chink shithole country.
>B-B-BUT THEY'LL NEED ELECTRICIANS AND MECHANICS!!!!
a handful of mechanics and electricians can keep an entire production line running. i know because i wasted 3 years of my life working on a medium density fiberboard production line, the largest one in fucking north america. the company spent millions of dollars on new machinery to automate away jobs. in the 3 years i worked there they axed a couple dozen jobs at a mill that employed 500-600 people. those jobs never came back.

What do you mean? The US manufacturers more than it ever did before but the industries are less labour intensive. Unemployment was around all time modern lows before corona. Most people won't want to work in shit factories for minimum wage to make cheap toys anymore than McDonalds, the jobs Chinese have access to aren't better quality.

>And for every job brought back stateside 10-100 chinese slaves are replaced with an American middle class person supporting American middle class a family.
But America has a relatively small population and most people are rich whereas most of the world has a big population and is poor. Where's the room for growth in America? You're going to export stuff to Africans? There's a reason rich countries move towards service economies.

And to add on, China is further in the process of automation than the States by a bit of a margin. Hoping for the return of manufacturing in the States is a total backward move. Innovation is the way, ie Silicon Valley. But that would require effort, something Americans lack sorely.

Nah, they are not coming back. If they do truly decouple from china, they will just starting using another similar country like India, makes 0 sense to pay retard burgers higher wages to do the same shit just because muh jobs

the unfortunate truth is that the vast majority of the population doesn't have the intelligence, education, and "polish" to function in the upper echelons of a service based or technology based economy. manufacturing was the one shot they had at a middle class life and now it's gone, forever. this is why the majority of new jobs created over the past 20 years are $10-15/hour wagie jobs in retail, customer service, and warehouses.

i got confused for a second by this question since the US still has a massive and growing manufacturing industry.

are you asking if people will stop buying cheap chinese parts? no.

So your argument is basically we should pay chinks to do everything so 100% of money from it goes to China and this will help American middle class more than if we just paid Americans to do the same job but better and with less shortcuts and qc failure. I don't quite follow your line of thought because it seems like less money going to Americans would be worse for Americans, not better.

lower middle class life today is much better than middle class life in the 60s with a factory job.

also median household income is like 90,000 a year in cities where you actually need money to live well.

let's make this simple with a hypothetical:
a) product made in some chink shithole, americans can buy it for $100. manual labor production line with 100 chinks.
b) product made in america, americans can buy it for $150. automated production line with 10 americans.

do 10 american jobs (and the economy benefits derived from those 10 american jobs) outweigh the hit of a 50% increase in price to all consumers?

>automated production

where will it come from? what will be the costs of installing it?

the costs of 100 chinks is rent of the shack and some rice

>Is manufacturing job gonna be coming back to US?
If US wages fall balow the wages in ASIA, then yes, there might even be a chance that companies will upfront billions upon billions to build highly automated factories in the USA again that will give some few 10k people new jobs.
Otherwise, no!
On the other hand, everyone wants to have "manufacturing back" but no one would actually want to work low wage manufacturing jobs anymore if they were available. Those factories would be stuffed with Indians, Somalians and Mexicans because the average Burger wouldn't do the job. Heck they don't even want to mow their own lawn.
BRING BACK MANUFACTURING = build your own shoes in a swatshop around the corner next to the Wendys. yeah, no, that's only cool in theory and not in practice
>US is decoupling from China
There is no such thing.
If the USA can decouple itself from a single digit percentage of their imports from China I'd consider this an economic miracle.

Any additional manufacturing jobs in the US benefits the US. Any fewer manufacturing jobs in China hurts China. Goods may cost marginally more, but what good are cheap goods if your population can't afford to buy them. This is before even considering the quality of Chinese vs American good. (Buy once a year vs buy once)

The US is also the largest consumer market in the world, and is already the least integrated with the rest of the world. The US is the only major power in the world that is food, energy, and mineral secure.

We'll see how much of their 'lead' they can maintain when they no longer have free reign to steal western industrial technology. Standing up to Chinese IP theft is one of the few things cucked yuros have supported Trump on.

>Get fucked, manufacturing jobs are coming back
What companies are building new up-to-date manufacturing plants from scratch in the USA?
Could you provide a list for reference?
>inb4 TSMC

>where will it come from? what will be the costs of installing it?
cheap corporate debt, second/third/fourth round IPOs, bond or convertible bond issuance. automation projects are fucking expensive but if they have good maintenance schedules they last a long time and will pay for themselves many times over. companies aren't making these decisions blindly. teams of engineers and financial analysts are projecting useful lives of automation machinery and crunching the internal rate of return before greenlighting projects.

>This is before even considering the quality of Chinese vs American good. (Buy once a year vs buy once)

on-shoring production does not automatically yield a higher quality product. chink products suck dick because they use shit raw materials, shit quality control, and shit labor. if you import those shit practices into america your product will suck just as much but instantly cost more due to higher labor rates, costlier raw materials, utilities, etc.

now imagine the cost of a high quality, made in america product when you tack on tighter manufacturing tolerances and more stringent quality control.

>Goods may cost marginally more, but what good are cheap goods if your population can't afford to buy them.
>The US is also the largest consumer market in the world, and is already the least integrated with the rest of the world.
This is only the doing of the printing press and nothing else.
China has its own BRRRRRRRRRR box nowadays which people want to ignore.
If the Chinese controller want to, they can emulate the USA at no problem, which means 1.something billion people living on a credit card buying useless shit they manufacture themself.

>Is manufacturing job gonna be coming back to US?
Nah the labour cost is to high for such a lazy workforce. India, Vietnam (this region), Eastern europe, north africa, South america for the mutts will be the the areas.
>US is decoupling from China for all reasons and domestic unemployment rate is higher than ever, what's a better time to do so?
Nah, these checks are doing a perfect job. The debt bubble hasn't fully peaked yet. It's the worst time for multinationals to invest. Once American the 1st world facade falls then you can compete with India et al.

>Is manufacturing job gonna be coming back to US
yes once it doesn't require workers

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>Foxconn Technology Group
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>Volvo
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>Apple (Large expansion of current facilites)

industryweek.com/the-economy/ask-the-expert-reshoring/article/21962926/how-will-chinas-labor-turmoil-and-rising-wages-impact-reshoring
Is an interesting read on the cost/benefit analysis of doing business in the US vs China.

It's time to face the music, if you are not already rich, your only chance to make it is to gamble in the markets. Very few will survive. Most of us are doomed to a life of serfdom as automation eliminates the very last of the jobs

washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/10/magic-wand-or-not-manufacturing-employment-is-its-lowest-density-record/
>+480,000 manufacturing jobs since Trump took office. Lets see what he can do in his second term. (Assuming he wins the house and faces a fraction of the obstruction)

It literally does. If you fuck someone over in the US your reputation is fucked and you can be held liable. Good luck suing a Chinese company. Those practices are accepted in shitholes because they are shitholes. Once you have all stages of business taking place within one country then laws and regulations can be more effectively applied.

industryweek.com/the-economy/ask-the-expert-reshoring/article/21962926/how-will-chinas-labor-turmoil-and-rising-wages-impact-reshoring
This article breaks down how the cost of doing business in the US and China are approaching parity.

Bullshit. Back in the day you could buy a home on the beach working as bagger at a grocery store. I know, my grandfather did it.

>480,000

ironic now that the pandemic will wipe out around 7 million permanently (although not all in manufacturing)
how many of those jobs actually pay above the median wage? also it doesn't matter what country the jobs are in they will be automated eventually

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The machinery still exists, brainlet. Just put the shit on a boat and ship it back over here.