/tsg/ Tanker Stock General (/tog/ wasn't too popular)

Rates go up, stocks go down edition

>Highlighted links
m.youtube.com/watch?v=vKNt_Z5s6vI
thediplomat.com/2020/05/us-sanctions-prompt-china-to-cut-most-iran-oil-supplies-officially-at-least/

>Cursory oil education
investopedia.com/investing/oil-gas-industry-overview/
pediaa.com/difference-between-crude-oil-and-shale-oil/
api.org/oil-and-natural-gas/consumer-information/in-the-classroom/online-education-resources
opisnet.com/resources/glossary-of-terms/

>Cursory tanker education
investopedia.com/articles/investing/012316/crude-tankers-business-transporting-oil.asp
lawexplores.com/the-tanker-market-current-structure-and-economic-analysis/
mckinseyenergyinsights.com/resources/refinery-reference-desk/tanker/
euro-maritime.com/index.php/navigator?id=3080

>Tanker rates
crweber.com/ (no https)
twitter.com/TankersInt
fearnpulse.com/

>Maritime news
lloydslist.maritimeintelligence.informa.com/
marinevesseltraffic.com/2013/02/tanker-track.html
freightwaves.com/american-shipper
shipbrief.com/

>Oil news
eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/global_oil.php
oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/
spglobal.com/platts/en/commodities/oil
rystadenergy.com/newsevents/
nhentai.net/tag/oil/

> Oil companies
No list.
There’s hundreds and bankruptcy seem likely for many.

>Tanker companies
pastebin.com/TnN1aeQz

> Upcoming tanker earnings reports
SFL on 5/29, pre-market
TNP on 6/4, pre-market

>Crude oil contract spread and expiration date
cmegroup.com/

Previous thread:

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>Rates go up, stocks go down edition
aka every fucking edition
DHT IS DOGSHIT
THE ENTIRE OIL INDUSTRY IS FUCKING RIGGED AS FUCK
IF YOU AREN'T ALREADY IN. STAY THE FUCK OUT

At least they aren't dumping hard like oil

>Rates go up, stocks go down edition
How true. Rates go down, stocks go up. Rates go up, stocks go down. Oil is falling, tankers going down. Weird day, but was worse earlier. Things look like they want to get better. Also, Trump press conference today as well as news that a while ago Trump had closed door meeting with Britain about Hong Kong. I think we might see sanctions for real today, I got hope. Cute and accurate image too OP, thank you as always.

DHT is doing pretty alright today compared to other tankers.

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i told you the other day about DHT, man
that isn't mooning for MONTHS to come and even when it does it won't be enough to offset the opportunity lost of participating in the bull run taking place in the meantime

I doubt, they are profiting extremely hard even as rates fell. No idea how they were securing 60k and 80k voyages when the rates were 40k on average, but they got 5 star negotiators or something. Plus I got exposure to many other tankers, not like I miss shit even if you were right. VLCC's benefit harder than other tankers models if China gets sanctioned, and DHT is all VLCC. 15% share dilution during apocalyptic scenario is not worth worrying about when the upside is so great.

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HODL DHT MUHREENS
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD

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COLD DEAD HAAAAAAANDS

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I mean, tankers are volatile. Volatility is just a part and parcel of trading them. DHT is relatively flat right now.
Yeah, it's a mellow dump compared to other days. Hopefully i'm not jinxing it, but it doesn't seem to have any legs. Maybe just antsy profit takers. I'm still green on FRO and EURN.
Yeah, very odd. Maybe market sentiment, fear of sanctions, and profit scalpers are dragging them down today? Because there's no real reason. 70k rates (absolutely stellar rates) might not be enough to entice frightened investors. We'll have to see.

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Buy the REFR dip

>DHT is relatively flat right now
that's a creative way of saying, "laying dead on the bottom with fish picking away at its corpse"

i'm buying refr puts because you spam so much

Based.

Probably sentiment. Maybe profit taking. Past 2 days made no sense in the energy sector cumulatively. Also for a "down day," this is very weak downness. I am green on FRO, EURN, and STNG still. I can barely call this a dump, it's more like a crab so far.

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Kek. It's not creative at all. It's just a fact. DHT stock prices could fall a lot further, but right now it seems to have found a bottom around 5.80 to 6.10. DHT still has massive cash flow coming in and Q3 is looking pretty good right now for VLCCs. So, we'll see how bad it is in the coming weeks.

Yeah, compared to the 10% down days, this is lovely.

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That is way too lewd, jesus user.

I will take 1% down any day as a "downturn." It is almost cute. Really the thing hurting me right now is STNG, otherwise it is just so negligible with everything else.

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it was less popular because brandon no longer bumps the thread

Comfy divvies and good returns will come to you, but only if you reply "HOLD ON SEA CAT" in this thread

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Quick summary of what some of the companies cover.
>DHT
Total Fleet: 27
Focus: Crude Oil
>Eurn
Total Fleet: 75
Types: Crude oil, offshore
>fro
Total: Fleet 69
Types: Crude Oil, product
>INSW
Total: 40
Types: Crude Oil, Product, off shore
>nna
Total: 46
Types: Crude Oil, Product (Petro), Chemical
>stng
Total: 138
Type: Product
>tk (includes tnk, tgp, too)
Total: 130
Type: Crude Oil, Product, Natural gas, offshore
>tnp
Total: 58
Type: Crude Oil, Product, Natural gas, offshore

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Let us pray
Praise be to the Lawrence my rock, who trains my hands for holds, my fingers for divvies. He is my loving boomer and my fortress, my stronghold and my deliverer, my shield, in whom I take refuge, who subdues Brandons under me.
AMEN

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BULLITION:
TRUMP PRESS CONFERENCE IN 40 MINUTES. SANCTIONS AGAINST CHINA POSSIBLE.

Beware, for if the news is "bad" then tankers both will be in a position better than the height of contango and at the same time the market runs the risk of mass indiscriminate sell offs which can plunge our share prices. This is the high seas of volatility, get ready for waves either way.

HOLD ON SEA CAT

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Based

oil

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he's going to announce sanctions on twitter and we will golden crab

ANY MOMENT NOW. COME ON OUT ORANGE MAN, GIVE ME MONEY!

Dew it Donald
Squish the bugs and their crude demand into nothingness

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WSJ just dropped a shitty fud article. It just mentions falling rates. That's it. Even though rates and inventories are increasing past 2 days. Eurn mentioned

HOLD ON SEA CAT!

WHERE IS HE. I WANT TO FUCK OVER CHINA ALREADY.

Fuck WSJ, they are unreliable af about everything in this market.

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IT'S HERE. COME ON TRUMP! DO IT

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ALL HANDS ON DECK - IT'S STARTING

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GOOD START. PULLING ALL SUPPORT FOR WHO. NOW SANCTION! COME ON!

SANCTIONS SANCTIONS IT IS HAPPENING, TRUMP FUCKING DID IT! IT'S HAPPENING!

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Eh, but it is sanctions on Hong Kong officials, no tariffs. Not enough, fuck.

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DADDY TRUMP DOES IT AGAIN

Nah, it's a nothingburger in the eyes of the market. They only cared about sanctions against China itself and tariffs as well as ending the trade deal. I got excited over nothing, Trump did a lot but pussied out of ending the trade deal. Shame on you Trump.

Hopefully this is 4D chess and China ends it in response to Trump's insults so Trump can tariff, then all is good. Sorry for false hype.

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tankers inch back up closer to 0 for the day

At this point he wants economic independence from china. We shall see where the developments go. If tariffs and sanctions still happen then it's still a bonus for us