Corona

Can we please have a discussion about second wave of covid? Yesterday there were 30k+ cases again in the US, last time this happened was May 1st and with all the BLM protests its gonna grow really hard the next week and Trump wont lock down again.
Are we in for another crash? The online upside is that NYC should have some sort of immunity (20%+ antibodies) so Sergey should be safe

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This is the 7 day moving average.

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JEROME POWELL WILL SAVE US!!!!

...Maybe.

If you look at the cumulative number of cases vs the total population, there’s still a long way to go. Sweden has let the virus run in hopes of achieving herd immunity but it seems to be taking much longer than they predicted: only 15-20% of the general population has antibodies and models suggest herd immunity will need at least 50-80% to be effective. The virus is going to win, the wildcard is how long it will take governments to admit to it and just let it run. All in all shaping up to be quite the habbening desu fampai

I got corona when I went to los Angelo's couple weeks ago. Gave it to my gf too. And her family now has it and my family too.

Shit spreads like crazy.
Mild symptoms and easy to get teated. I just hope it's not airborne aids and I'm fucked for life.

Oh yeah I forgot, fuck China for purposefully lying about this to help spread it so they wouldn’t suffer a competitive disadvantage. Fucking monstrous

>2 million will die
>er I mean 1 million will die
>uh, I mean just the comorbid who are elderly, morbidly obese, diabetic, heart disease
>uh I mean 500,000
>whew good thing we closed the entire global economy...hehe...he...heh
>I dunno...
>muh second wave!!!!!!

Holy shit, you people are worse than a Friday the 13th movie.

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there is no such thing as herd immunity if the anti bodies are gone after some weeks

In case you hadn’t noticed the response to virus is indeed worse than the virus and the powers that be dictate the response. If they say there’s a second wave, shit shuts down again. Simple as

>Anglo countries most devastated by covid
>Anglo countries with more pathogenic version and all haplotypes
>Anglo countries getting sick last fall
>Anglo countries waging economic war in china since 2018
>Anglo countries infecting china with swine flu
>Anglo countries fostering Hong Kong protests
>Anglo countries arming Taiwan and promoting anti Chinese rhetoric
>Anglo countries lying about babies being thrown out in incubators, Iraq had wmd, entire underground cities hiding taliban

Hurrhurr china did it

My mom has symptons since early march and it doesnt really go away... I wish I was kidding mate...

Literally kill yourself chang. Yes china did it and china is gonna pay for it.

Mmkay. Would you be so kind as to translate that into English for me?

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Bullish for Suterusu and Asia's recovery.

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I hope that she will make it fren
My dad (70) had it probably and lucky it was only mild.

I hope this means more staycation.

Did you buy the dip user?

My dad is in this exact situation. He's got a bad cough that just won't go away.

People will not be scared a second time.

Pic related: when NY was at 16k deaths, only about 100 had zero severe underlying conditions.
And even they had an extremely high average age.

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Eurofag here, i got infected in april and while most symptoms went away after 3 weeks, im still suffering from exhaustion, elevated heartrate, shortness of breath by the smallest exercise. I also wish i was joking, the long term effects are a bitch, im almost wondering if it will ever fully go away ..

Why do you think there would be less than a million dead? A couple of million dead are still on the table.

Very few Americans have zero underlying conditions though. I mean a whopping 10% are diabetics, just for starters.

The average age of covid deaths around the world is well into the 70s.
The fact that nearly all of them had pretty severe underlying conditions is just in addition to that.

If there is a second wave, young people will not be cowed into staying home again.

>Why do you think there would be less than a million dead?
Buddy...

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you need to consider that new cases contribute to the new deaths about a week or so later. so ofc we dont see a spike in daily deaths yet.

Yes, we can!
OP, because China is worthless data-wise, it's pretty important if we look at the next hotspot, Europe and see how things have been happening there. And there's no reason for alarm.
The new cases data is worthless without comparative testing. We test A LOT more than we did back then, it's perfectly natural we find more cases, so that graph evolution is not particularly informative. There's two things you should look at:
a) Hospitalizations, because they give you the load in that particular moment. Considering we know that the rate of hospitalizations (whatever it is) won't vary too much (and if it does, it's lower than two months ago because of a weaker viral load), that also gives us the number of active cases.
b) Excess of death, and not just death. Excess of death because some countries under-report, others, over-report, and when you compare the number of deaths with the last 10 years in a similar period, it's pretty easy to see where how much corona is killing.

With that in mind, what happened when europe ended their lockdown? Did they get more cases than the previous 2 weeks or so? Yeah, sure. There's hotspots, they go there and test, a lot. They find cases. Did hospitalizations spiked in a similar rate? No. Did excess death spiked? No, quite the contrary, right now we are seeing death rates across the countries pretty normalized with past years.

The whole herd thing is still a big misconception, because we don't know when the virus started spreading. 2 days ago italy water institution release the info that their december wastewater samples had traces of the virus (iss.it/en/primo-piano/-/asset_publisher/o4oGR9qmvUz9/content/id/5422725) We don't know the percentage necessary for herd, there's right now a big chance a large group of people that won't ever get affected, or won't show up those particular antibodies, why? Because of how our own heterogeneity works.

There would have to be a much bigger spike than the first one to go from 120k deaths and rapidly declining, to 1 million deaths.

Figures are similar to a severe flu. When you take into account deaths wrongly attributed to covid, and deaths due to lockdown, it's a nothing burger. Look at annual flu deaths. It's in the tens of thousands, yet no one flinches. It's manipulation of statistics, nothing more.
It's by design that this has happened. Yes it's a fucking conspiracy, and yes, you're supposed to hate China for it. Wake up. How many times can you fall for the 'Hate this nation, hate that nation' narrative?

There are pretty valid reasons to hate china tho
>The coof being not one of them