>24, 2nd year of being software developer out of uni >fortune 500 company >£36k (not in Londonistan)
Ever since lockdown and permanently WFH I have just completely given up on my work, I've been doing the bare minimum and today my pajeet manager had a 1-2-1 with me and said I'm really behind on progress, he's pretty reasonable and he's right but at the same time I just don't give a shit about this company anymore, the work is dry, I spend every day on pointless zoom calls with pajeets about software projects that probably won't see the light of day and the company bureaucracy/politics/culture is unbearable.
Any tips to get back on the horse? I used to like this job fresh out of uni but it's chipped away at my optimism and confidence and just wanna move jobs early next year.
Sounds like it's time to look for a new job. I'm doing the same the way, similar boat
Owen Smith
I want to move, but I'm half holding on because covid lockdown is going to destroy UK economy and to see if I get a salary increase or (unlikely) promotion in January.
Samuel Turner
Find a (preferably good) startup. The work is much more rewarding and you get to make your own decisions.
Andrew Green
Isn't a start-up riskier though? So many of them go bust. How to filter through them for the good ones?
Robert Foster
Same here OP. I was getting paid to not work for 2 months, then my contract expired and I had a hard time getting back on the horse, but you just have to do it.. The year has been depressing for some
Jordan Fisher
>How to filter through them for the good ones?
That's the thing, most now just have the end goal of wanting to be bought or merged and don't care how they do it.
A lot of them in the UK just hire you on 6 Month probationary period then sack you at the end because "you don't fit the culture".
On top of that any decent tech startups are all in London, i.e. Monzo. And they have even worse work cultures.
Gabriel Lee
Where are you working that you're on 36k in your second year out of uni as a dev? I'm earning a similar amount on my third but I'm a fucking wizard at this shit.
Cooper Gray
Yeah, they do, but there are so many out here you can just move on to the next one if it happens. I just make sure I have enough in the emergency fund for a month or two. In my (UK) city good devs from a failed startup will be snapped up in a couple of weeks. Ask a lot of questions in your interview about the product and make a decision yourself if they are building something useful. Also ask about current runway.
Logan Rogers
Bank, I'll be honest I'm by no means a wizard but when I get into a project and it just "clicks" I love it.
Jose Ramirez
>A lot of them in the UK just hire you on 6 Month probationary period then sack you at the end because "you don't fit the culture". I have yet to see that happen thankfully.
>On top of that any decent tech startups are all in London Plenty of good startups in other cities
Xavier Barnes
Has happened to two of my mates, albeit may be more to do due to covid.
Any example of which cities? I'm willing to relocate
Benjamin Gray
What? 36k is a reasonable salary for a developer in Yerop? I'm a dev, dropped out of uni, and I make 70k a year and I'm on year 3. Are you guys really working for like 40k USD a year???
Owen Nguyen
All relative to cost of living, median salary in UK is like £30k I think (but that'll be heavily skewed by London)
Nolan Clark
yes the UK economy is completely fucked and will never recover. britain will be the first country in europe to regress to a third world standard of living
Joseph Flores
cost of living? I'm a dual irish citizen (live in US) and I know that houses are way more expensive over there because I wanted to move there. How much do you pay for a dozen eggs? I pay 1.99
Owen Gutierrez
Thanks guys. I'm in Cambridge and there are tons of medical startups. Is there anything I should look out for? e.g. years running, profitability, number of empl oyees? They offer pretty high salaries..
Gabriel Jones
Worked in Edinburgh and Belfast mainly. My salary range as a Senior Engineer for a few startups was £50,000 - £70,000.
Recently started contracting, charging £450-£500 per day.
Luke Bennett
Devs here starts at 25k (my specific area it's actually even less but living costs is also cheaper). After a couple of years I expect most Devs will be on around 30. Comparisons with the US is pointless since at every stage of the dev career you seem to earn a lot more than in Europe.
Jaxson Kelly
Why on Earth would you ever go into tech in Europe? All the good salaries are in the US.
Samuel Jones
Bruh every career is worse in Europe. Software developers still earn way more than the median salary here.
Juan Johnson
Why? That makes no sense to me. I wanted to move to IE but no way will I take a 70% paycut
Nathan Campbell
4 eggs is a tenner
Caleb Morgan
Dozen eggs are like £1.70 here
Is it hard finding work in America? Idk if it's for me desu, I like Trump but isn't it only like 10 days holiday there
Thanks lad, I'll be more open minded about startups
Kevin Morales
I wish I knew. I'd love to emigrate the the US and start earning 100k+ and buy a gun but the laws designed to keep pajeets out also keep us out.
Oliver Watson
This is my second job as devops, and I have 20 days pto, 5 days sick. I work remotely. Work is pretty easy to find as well, I've found. I stumbled into this position with no formal education; think it's nuts that people in UK will take work for that price and justify it with cost of living. I mean, life can't be that different in price over there. I live in Atlanta, which isn't an expensive city, but isn't a cheap one.
Matthew Scott
im was starting to feel the same about my job. thank fuck corona came along and gave me a chance to think about what i actually want to do as it was my first career esq job that was bearable and did it just for money which didnt require doing the same mundane task 8 hours a day
What was your experience like working at those startups? Would you recommend contracting for a junior or build up more experience?
Luke Sanders
bump
Ethan Johnson
Thoughts?
Juan Long
can not vouche for that. all my startups were very tight with money and it was ungreatful work.
Easton Reed
>and to see if I get a salary increase or (unlikely) promotion in January. If your manager think you're not preforming well, then that won't happen. Best thing you can do is voice the complaints to your manager and see if he can change anything. If not then Starting reviewing your CV. I'd start to do that just now either way and be ready to start job hunting.
Cooper Richardson
Similar boat but in finance. Allegedly we're trying to get an equity management platform off the ground and they want me to be Chief Investment Officer but they haven't filled me in on the deets which seems odd considering I'm supposed to be such an important player in the plan
Nicholas Brooks
25yo, 2nd year out of uni, making 32k in videogames in Spain, which is a nice salary here. I like my job and my studio, but I keep wondering if I should move to USA and make 60-100k a year instead. I get the cost of living is different, but I follow a rather simple lifestyle. Though I guess in america I would need to learn to drive, and get a car... Is it worth it?
